The Russell Coughlin Memorial Match - Carlisle v Plymouth

[shoddycollins]

also known as El Glassico

A tribute is planned to Russell Coughlin before this game. The midfielder played 130 games for Carlisle and 131 for Plymouth between 1980 and 1987 and was killed in a road traffic accident in Carlisle on the 3rd of August.

On the field, I'd say we're looking forward to getting another of the most difficult games of the season out of the way early on. We're pretty pleased with a point at Pompey and the performance against Port Vale (lots of P's at the start of the season), and plan to push on against Plymouth. Plymouth must be pretty disappointed in their home defeat against Luton and will be desparate to kick-start their season at Brunton Park. I wouldn't be disappointed with another draw, but hope that we go into the game looking for the win.

I however, won't be there in person as I have a trip planned to Brussels over the weekend, so I have to wait until September before I can attend my first Saturday home game.

 

[cufc17]

Another tough game, but it's certainly winnable. I was impressed with our performance against Port Vale, and we've still got Brisley and Ibehre to return. Devitt will be back, which may give Curle a tough decision to make - 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2. If we go for the latter (I hope he decides to keep 2 forwards), surely Devitt, Lambe and Adams can't all start?

Plymouth will be disappointed with their start, and will be targeting three points you'd think, though I think we're playing them at a good time.

I think we'll win, but it'll be another challenging match.

 

[daviejones]

Another tough game, but it's certainly winnable. I was impressed with our performance against Port Vale, and we've still got Brisley and Ibehre to return. Devitt will be back, which may give Curle a tough decision to make - 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2. If we go for the latter (I hope he decides to keep 2 forwards), surely Devitt, Lambe and Adams can't all start?

Plymouth will be disappointed with their start, and will be targeting three points you'd think, though I think we're playing them at a good time.

I think we'll win, but it'll be another challenging match.

All three started against Portsmouth, I'm hoping Curle goes back to those three behind Miller and lets them all attack (within reason) again. In fact I'd have the same team as the one which started at Portsmouth, apart from Brisley in for Gillesphey if he's available. No need to rush Jabo back but Brisley is worth bringing in as this is a relatively tough match, then he can rest the match after if needs be.

 

[hellogregory]

It worries me when all our fans think we'll win, especially when we're up against a team that nearly got promoted last season.

Tough game. I think it's got 2-2 written all over it.

 

[shoddycollins]

It worries me when all our fans think we'll win, especially when we're up against a team that nearly got promoted last season.

Tough game. I think it's got 2-2 written all over it.

I'd be satisfied with a draw. Want to win, but wouldn't be disappointed with a point provided it isn't a jammy point.

 

[Rob_of_the_green]

Mammoth journey and I'm not confident at all, in fact being completely honest I'm expecting us to lose. I'm not convinced that we can score goals with the way we've set up (we haven't scored this season yet), and our defence looks disjointed without Nelson. Definitely a good time to play us.

 

[daviejones]

Well that sounds promising. We've got goals in us for sure, looking forward to having a full game with Devitt provided the ref doesn't screw things up again. There's still a question mark over how we'll do defensively, the two matches so far aren't helpful at all in assessing whether we're still leaky at the back as we surrendered all hope of scoring at Portsmouth and had a relatively easy game in all areas against Port Vale. Not sure if Brisley is still injured but it'd be a good game to start him if he isn't.

If Brisley and Jabo aren't fit still then I'd go for almost the same team as the Portsmouth match, just with Ellis in as I seem to remember someone saying they were set up for set pieces. If Brisley's fit swap him for Ellis. KC must be looking to introduce McKee at some point so maybe he'll come in for Kennedy, but I'd rather he saved his debut for a slightly easier match so go for this:

Gillespie
Miller Raynes Ellis Grainger
Jones Kennedy
Lambe Devitt Adams
Miller​

 

[shoddycollins]

I'd like to think we'll go two up front at home

 

[Chris0922]

I would assume that we'll go two up front as well which brings up the Adams, Devitt and Lambe conundrum...Added to the mix is that Curle's team selection is never what you think it will be...

 

[daviejones]

Just don't know where Devitt fits if we play two up front, he isn't really the type of centre mid you want playing this sort of match and giving defensive duties but at the same time I feel he could be more influential on a match like this than a second striker such as Wyke.

For me when you've got centre mids like Jones, Kennedy and Joyce it means you can essentially play Devitt in an attacking mid role where he has little to no defensive duties, as a striker would, but just plays a bit deeper than a striker to link up play to someone like Miller or Wyke.

 

[shoddycollins]

Well we've gone two up front in naming an unchanged team from the Port Vale game with Jabo and Devitt returning to the squad but not the starting line-up. Fairly sensible course of action I'd say.

 

[shoddycollins]

During the summer I made a thread about Reggie Lambe mimicking the Bingham thread, joking that Lambe was the new Bingham. I was wrong, Lambe is nothing like Bingham, he's already equaled the great man's goal return. Of course we all know that is down to Bingham's selflessness. I'm ashamed by Lambe's sheer arrogance to score when in sight of goal. How dare he.

 

[daviejones]

Each match I wonder more and more how Lambe has been released by Mansfield, looks a fantastic signing for this level.

 

[daviejones]

Fantastic, well done Curle. 4 points from two of the main promotion favourites puts us level on points for first having had the toughest start.

 

[Grecian O'Grecian]

Devon's on fire. League 2 is terrified.

 

[hellogregory]

Thought we were bang average today to be honest, but the 3 points are what matters.

 

[hellogregory]

Each match I wonder more and more how Lambe has been released by Mansfield, looks a fantastic signing for this level.

He didn't get released, he turned down a new contract.

 

[cufc17]

Great first half performance, solid second half performance. I can't remember Gillespie having anything to do, Plymouth's only chance was blocked on the line by Grainger near the end.

As above, Lambe looks like a very decent player. Another good team effort to get the 3 points, both central defenders won most duels. Jones in midfield just looks a class above.

4 points out of 6 represents a good start, another win on Tuesday would be grand.

 

[hellogregory]

I wouldn't say the first half was great. Certainly not at the level of Tuesday nights.

We need to see more passing and less hoofing than we did today.

 

[daviejones]

He didn't get released, he turned down a new contract.

But they hardly made an effort to re-sign him, seem to remember the contract offer was either only level or even reduced terms.

 

[daviejones]

I wouldn't say the first half was great. Certainly not at the level of Tuesday nights.

We need to see more passing and less hoofing than we did today.

I would assume Devitt will be back in on Tuesday which should mean a passing game.

 

[cufc17]

I wouldn't say the first half was great. Certainly not at the level of Tuesday nights.

We need to see more passing and less hoofing than we did today.

Definitely not as good as Tuesday, but I thought we looked good on the ball again and limited Argyle, forcing them into a change at half-time (I'm guessing). I think we mixed it up quite well, although maybe a tad too many long-throws aimed at Raynes.

 

[hellogregory]

But they hardly made an effort to re-sign him, seem to remember the contract offer was either only level or even reduced terms.

Even if that's the case, they still wanted him to stay, otherwise they wouldn't have offered him anything. So not released, we just made him a better offer.

 

[hellogregory]

I would assume Devitt will be back in on Tuesday which should mean a passing game.

I would hope so, and possibly Gillesphey.

 

[Rob_of_the_green]

We're shite, and we know we are.

At least Adams now has a contract to 2020, so we've got 4 years to sort it out...

 

[FrazerLloyd]

There's a lot of knees being jerked in Plymouth tonight and whilst our start of the season has been extremely poor, it's far too early to say how things will end up. Derek Adams has a very good track record as a manager and at present, I'm confident he'll get us out of the league this season.

 

[hellogregory]

My view of Plymouth today was they set up too negative. I know that's rich coming from a Carlisle fan after last week at Portsmouth, but the difference was we started positive and went negative when down to 10. Plymouth today started off with a back 5 and 2 midfielders that didn't get forward much. Early on I felt like they were happy for it to stay 0-0. It kind of spoilt the game, we couldn't play as fluent as we did during the week so relieved when we got the goal.

Plymouth looked far more of a threat when they brought Jervis on, how he isn't starting games I do not know.

 

[FrazerLloyd]

Plymouth today started off with a back 5 and 2 midfielders that didn't get forward much.

I think Adams made a mistake here to be honest. Where you have said that we played with a back five, the intention was actually to play with a back three. Sawyer and Miller were supposed to play as wing backs.

However, this is where Adams made a mistake. Neither Sawyer or Miller are wing backs. They are full backs. Neither have an abundance of pace, and whilst both are sound defensively, they offer little going forward. Therefore, it is hardly surprising to hear you say that we played a back five.

I think Sawyer and Miller will be two of our biggest assets this season. Sawyer has shown before that whilst unspectacular, he will give you a seven out of ten every week and Miller looks very much the same. However, because of their defensive tendencies, they shouldn't be playing as wing backs, but rather as part of a back four.

Of course, this would afford us an extra player who could play further up the pitch.

 

[Rob_of_the_green]

I think Adams made a mistake here to be honest. Where you have said that we played with a back five, the intention was actually to play with a back three. Sawyer and Miller were supposed to play as wing backs.

However, this is where Adams made a mistake. Neither Sawyer or Miller are wing backs. They are full backs. Neither have an abundance of pace, and whilst both are sound defensively, they offer little going forward. Therefore, it is hardly surprising to hear you say that we played a back five.

I think Sawyer and Miller will be two of our biggest assets this season. Sawyer has shown before that whilst unspectacular, he will give you a seven out of ten every week and Miller looks very much the same. However, because of their defensive tendencies, they shouldn't be playing as wing backs, but rather as part of a back four.

Of course, this would afford us an extra player who could play further up the pitch.

I agree about Sawyer and Miller, I think Threlkelds potentially a much better option at wing back, the trouble with playing as a 4 with our current CBs is that we look defensively very fragile, having a further player up the pitch isn't much good if you're leaking goals. He needs to find a good, settled CB pairing for that to work

 

[FrazerLloyd]

I agree about Sawyer and Miller, I think Threlkelds potentially a much better option at wing back, the trouble with playing as a 4 with our current CBs is that we look defensively very fragile, having a further player up the pitch isn't much good if you're leaking goals. He needs to find a good, settled CB pairing for that to work

We looked fairly strong against West Brom with Bulvitis at the back. How did he play today? Did you go?