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Wondered how long it would take a united fan to come out with that one. Of course they should be condemned as pricks. They are pricks. But you'll not hear me saying 'oh, every club has them'. I'll call them pricks.

Every club has them and they are all pricks.

People need to start realising that their football club is not special. It's just a football club.
 

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Every club has them and they are all pricks.

People need to start realising that their football club is not special. It's just a football club.

+1
 

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Liverpool couldn't have asked for a better deal really considering the player publicly asked to leave, they were in a weak position and still got an astronomical sum. Someone compared him to Rooney before, he's not shown anything as fantastic as Rooney did before his Manchester United move. Think claims he won't make the team are wide of the mark though, he'll thrive alongside better players, although Manchester City must surely be looking for better players if they're looking at Champions League success?
 

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Heard an interesting take onnthensuccess or failure of big transfers earlier. You can only really judge by how, when and where they leave.

Failure would be if he goes to Villa in three years for £10m with a League Cup runners up medal to his name.

If he leaves in three years with a Premier League, FA Cup and a CL final under his belt to join Real for £110m (adjusted for future inflation!) or goes on a free transfer to Premier League new boys Stevenage with a sackful of honours in 2029 then he's probably done pretty well.
 

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I don't think this is as good a deal for Liverpool as others seem to. It's a good price for a player who didn't want to be there but ultimately they're selling one of their best players (I'd say he is/was their best player; Sturridge is always injured and Coutinho is overrated) to a direct rival. Sterling improves City straight away and he's only going to get better.
What could they do though, the situation was going from bad to worse with his and his agent's behaviour, and City were the only ones in for him, so to get £49 mill in for him is good business. I've said it here before, but he isn't worth that amount currently, but within a few years that price will look a bargain for City if he progresses further, which imo he will do. Yes Liverpool are only strengthening another Premier League side by his move, but tbh, City are not direct rivals unless they have an absolute mare of a season, but with signings like this and possibly De Bruyne to come in, they should be challenging for the league along with Arsenal and Chelsea this season.
 

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Heard an interesting take onnthensuccess or failure of big transfers earlier. You can only really judge by how, when and where they leave.

Failure would be if he goes to Villa in three years for £10m with a League Cup runners up medal to his name.

If he leaves in three years with a Premier League, FA Cup and a CL final under his belt to join Real for £110m (adjusted for future inflation!) or goes on a free transfer to Premier League new boys Stevenage with a sackful of honours in 2029 then he's probably done pretty well.

So if he does badly it was a failure and if he does well it was a success then?
 

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What could they do though, the situation was going from bad to worse with his and his agent's behaviour, and City were the only ones in for him, so to get £49 mill in for him is good business. I've said it here before, but he isn't worth that amount currently, but within a few years that price will look a bargain for City if he progresses further, which imo he will do. Yes Liverpool are only strengthening another Premier League side by his move, but tbh, City are not direct rivals unless they have an absolute mare of a season, but with signings like this and possibly De Bruyne to come in, they should be challenging for the league along with Arsenal and Chelsea this season.
Well yeah, bar convincing Sterling to stay this was probably the best outcome Liverpool could've hoped for, but that doesn't necessarily make it a good thing for them. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd also be a bit worried that Sterling was so desperate to leave. And I'd say City are direct rivals to Liverpool in that they're one of the clubs where Liverpool want to be, and this deal just makes the gap even bigger.
 

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This is perfectly sane.

Or perhaps, deep down, Britain's fundamental response to seeing a young, black, working-class man taking his own advice is to tell him to sit back down, instruct him as to what's best for him, then make jokes about how many children he has.

An alternative perspective no other sports writer/pundit/commentator would have the bollocks to pen.
 

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There does seem to be a worrying kind of trend in that black players are painted a badboys or wrong 'uns without much cause. I remember when Berahino got punched in the head by a team mate, the media just decided that it must have been because he has attitude problems, and they've stuck with that ever since.
 

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There does seem to be a worrying kind of trend in that black players are painted a badboys or wrong 'uns without much cause. I remember when Berahino got punched in the head by a team mate, the media just decided that it must have been because he has attitude problems, and they've stuck with that ever since.

How about the 12 month driving ban for drink driving?
 

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There does seem to be a worrying kind of trend in that black players are painted a badboys or wrong 'uns without much cause. I remember when Berahino got punched in the head by a team mate, the media just decided that it must have been because he has attitude problems, and they've stuck with that ever since.

I think that applies to footballers in general sadly.
 

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There does seem to be a worrying kind of trend in that black players are painted a badboys or wrong 'uns without much cause. I remember when Berahino got punched in the head by a team mate, the media just decided that it must have been because he has attitude problems, and they've stuck with that ever since.

Attitudes towards players as well. Sturridge still carries a around the greedy & lazy stereotype, whereas someone like Dimitar Berbatov is seen as cultured & languid...
 

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I'm not claiming this inherent racism doesn't exist, but it's not as blatant and widespread as suggested. It's not like America where 'thug' has become a byword for the n word. Berbatov was routinely called lazy. White players, such as Rooney, were slated a lot worse than Sterling for making a decision to leave his club.
 

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Whilst Jack Wilshere has been slated for years before his last few games where he got MOTM for England.
 

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I've never heard anyone call Sturridge lazy, but I have heard people accuse Berbatov as being such, therefore I conclude that Sturridge is being preferentially treated because he's black.

I'd say you've not been listening too well...

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Remember when Ron Atkinson called Marcel Desailly a 'fucking languid, ingenious defender'?

That reminds me of that one time John George Terry called Anton Julian Ferdinand a "clucking quack front".
 

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Someone on Rawk just described Sterling in the following manner - "he is one ex player that should walk alone".

Absolutely damning indictment.
 

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I'd say you've not been listening too well...

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Where are those accusations coming from though? His time at Chelsea and then Chelsea fans justifying his sale I'd have thought. He was lazy at Chelsea.
 

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Someone on Rawk just described Sterling in the following manner - "he is one ex player that should walk alone".

Absolutely damning indictment.

I can't believe some of them still buy into that nonsense. Remember how well Glen Johnson was spoken of when he left? This was a player that gave them several years of service.
 

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Sterling's position was made untenable long time before he left, when partizan ex-Liverpool players came out in numbers to publicly criticise him, the fans turned on him and finally the club captain of over a decade patronised him.

I don't think going back was an option after that.
 

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Sterling's position was made untenable long time before he left, when partizan ex-Liverpool players came out in numbers to publicly criticise him, the fans turned on him and finally the club captain of over a decade patronised him.

I don't think going back was an option after that.

I don't think the comments from Carragher, Gerrard or anyone else really affected his decision too much. He wanted to leave long before they came out and said what they said publicly about him.
 

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So if he does badly it was a failure and if he does well it was a success then?

The point was more that it won't be in August that we'll know how well he's done, or even at the end of the season. So there's no point jumping up and down if he's on the bench for one game or he doesn't score in his first couple.
 

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