Is it time for a 'Managerial Merry go round' thread?

[AmberRich]

You were 18th when he joined. You're now 17th. That's a great improvement?

We'd be down with Carlisle and Fleetwood if Bonner stayed. Under Harris the trajectory did change, slowly but consistently we were picking up enough points for survival.

 

[Carver]

My money is on Bonner returning to Cambridge, he will surely be the favourite and their best candidate.

 

[thewwfc]

Harris was always going to take that job, he knows the set-up and Millwall have shiny wealthy American owners, so more resources to play with.

He does love his relegation dogfight sides though, he’s like the new Ian Atkins (for those long enough in the tooth to remember him).

Thing is, he has quite the reputation for dull, grindy football - which is fine to a point if it gets you out of trouble, but if that’s all there is, then it’s hard to endear yourself to the fanbase that way.

I play 5-a-side with a Millwall fan and his take was, “It’s gone down terribly. Honest to god, there's a step backwards - and then there's a leap.”

Hopefully Cambridge can actually do well out of this, as long as they stay up - if the compensation £££ gives you some more room for new signings in the close season.

 

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

You beat us playing good football under Bonner. When you came to SJP under Harris, you came for a 0-0 and played turgid football.

But what do I know?

Aye, but when you're the one win in 13 and we're the other 12 matches....

Harris' departure doesn't really change that getting rid of Bonner was the right thing at the time. From the outside I can see how BonnBack would have some legs, but it's really not right when you're on the other side.

Bonner now needs cut his teeth outside of the ''fan of the club special one'' perspective to have the 30 year career he targets. I've no doubt one day he'll manage us again, but it doesn't really suit either party now in reality.

Anyway, Harris, fine was picking up results and deep down thought we have a safe hand on the tiller, but he can hardly say no. Form wise (as his tenure was short enough for the form table) we have been 13th for the period he was in charge, so that is just fine really, stuck some points on the board and that was that. Harris always had a bit of a continuity candidate feel about him, and we kept the backroom staff as is.

I don't think I'm angry about this, or particularly emotional about it, even if the last day has been great drama. Can't turn down that if you're him, fair enough. Leaves us in the shit a bit for the derby and the 2 tough ones after that, but long live Barry Corr I guess!

 

[SVH]

Harris was always going to take that job, he knows the set-up and Millwall have shiny wealthy American owners, so more resources to play with.

He does love his relegation dogfight sides though, he’s like the new Ian Atkins (for those long enough in the tooth to remember him).

Thing is, he has quite the reputation for dull, grindy football - which is fine to a point if it gets you out of trouble, but if that’s all there is, then it’s hard to endear yourself to the fanbase that way.

I play 5-a-side with a Millwall fan and his take was, “It’s gone down terribly. Honest to god, there's a step backwards - and then there's a leap.”

Hopefully Cambridge can actually do well out of this, as long as they stay up - if the compensation £££ gives you some more room for new signings in the close season.

Paul Barry a Cambridge fan is the majority shareholder but he/we also have two partners from America with very deep pockets. The long term project is to be in the Championship.

We are working extremely hard to build our revenue off the pitch. £3.5m spent on a brand new training ground, £5m buying our stadium back and we are now in the process of releasing details of the redevelopment.

So a manager coming in who generally wants to be part of a long term project will be excited by these plans, which is why I wouldn’t rule someone like Michael Duff out if our owners could convince him by the project and bigger budgets going forward.

 

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

We should be a fairly attractive proposition at the moment, a clear and realistic task to achieve short term and with enough about the squad/club/new training ground etc to make it happen.

But the long term picture probably isn't the big selling point for whoever the next manager ends up being.

Maybe for the one after that, or the one after that, but the next big and exciting steps off the pitch all run on different schedules in comparison to the shelf life of a manager when you look past the outliers. It's just odd the outliers have come back to back in a way!

The project being sold is probably more ''keep us up, the more comfortably the better, and then start shaping this squad to look a bit more long term in the summer'' than ''this is where we could be and aim to be in 5 years time''. Lest someone buy into that soundbite, regurgitate it and then fuck off in 74 days time!

 

[SVH]

Michael Duff into even money for the job. Him or Rowett I would be very happy with.

 

[AmberRich]

Sky sports are now saying Duff is no longer in the running, and has named Bromley's Freddie Woodman as a candidate.

Also been said that Mark Kennedy is a candidate and was at the game last night. Nothings been said about Rowett since the initial rumours either. Feel like our fans have set their expectations high and will be initially disappointed if it isn't a Duff or Rowett type.

Gary Monk is a name that's also been linked and probably the most unwanted by our fans.

We want someone in place by Tuesday so clock is ticking.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Sky sports are now saying Duff is no longer in the running, and has named Bromley's Freddie Woodman as a candidate.

Also been said that Mark Kennedy is a candidate and was at the game last night. Nothings been said about Rowett since the initial rumours either. Feel like our fans have set their expectations high and will be initially disappointed if it isn't a Duff or Rowett type.

Gary Monk is a name that's also been linked and probably the most unwanted by our fans.

We want someone in place by Tuesday so clock is ticking.

He was linked to us after Barton went. Pretty uninspiring managerial record and has been out of management for a fair while now

 

[Si Robin]

Sky sports are now saying Duff is no longer in the running, and has named Bromley's Freddie Woodman as a candidate.

Also been said that Mark Kennedy is a candidate and was at the game last night. Nothings been said about Rowett since the initial rumours either. Feel like our fans have set their expectations high and will be initially disappointed if it isn't a Duff or Rowett type.

Gary Monk is a name that's also been linked and probably the most unwanted by our fans.

We want someone in place by Tuesday so clock is ticking.

I, for one, am shocked by this news.

 

[EricSabin]

Sky sports are now saying Duff is no longer in the running, and has named Bromley's Freddie Woodman as a candidate.

Also been said that Mark Kennedy is a candidate and was at the game last night. Nothings been said about Rowett since the initial rumours either. Feel like our fans have set their expectations high and will be initially disappointed if it isn't a Duff or Rowett type.

Gary Monk is a name that's also been linked and probably the most unwanted by our fans.

We want someone in place by Tuesday so clock is ticking.

Freddie Woodman or his dad Andy?

Andy been doing a good job at Bromley, has had them punching above their weight for a few years now

 

[AmberRich]

Freddie Woodman or his dad Andy?

Andy been doing a good job at Bromley, has had them punching above their weight for a few years now

Yes sorry, Andy Woodman ofc. Freddie would be very left field.

 

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

I mean, it's leftfield but it's hardly Simon Grayson, is it?

 

[AmberRich]

I mean, it's leftfield but it's hardly Simon Grayson, is it?

Very much hoping that's just bookies talk.

 

[masi51]

If you win tomorrow give Evatt a lift back with you

 

[denzel ecfc]

I mean, it's leftfield but it's hardly Simon Grayson, is it?

Larry Grayson would be better. At least he will be able to deal with the transfer window/ door slamming shut...

 

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

Even Grayson Perry would be useful, just need someone to paper over the cracks...

But yeah, would be suprised if we don't hear something tomorrow. By surprised, read concerned!

No game Tuesday this week and the timeframe was always to have something sorted in this gap.

 

[SVH]

Garry Monk now 1/2.

 

[AmberRich]

Garry Monk confirmed on a two year deal.
Honestly considering some of the names being mentioned in the last week I'm sort of just relieved at this point.

Haven't got a clue how this will go!

 

[Tom_CUFC]

Garry Monk confirmed on a two year deal.
Honestly considering some of the names being mentioned in the last week I'm sort of just relieved at this point.

Haven't got a clue how this will go!

Yes, pretty much my thoughts. If the rumours are true that we lost interest from at least one of the top candidates because we won't budge on Corr/Betsy than that's really disappointing, but compared to Simon Grayson and Derek fucking Adams then this is a considerable upgrade.

Kennedy was the other name floating around, I think that would have been a safer bet in terms of keeping us up this year, but there's more potential upside with Monk going forward.

 

[Laker]

Aside from him having a break from the game, his pedigree is decent so it’s a good appointment. I think it’s riskier in terms of staying up but it’s progressive in that I think it’s an appointment with next season in mind.

 

[Luke Imp]

What sort of squad style do Cambridge have? Reason I ask, is that Bonner to Harris to Monk doesn't scream consistency or anyone at the Club really knowing themselves.

 

[Laker]

What sort of squad style do Cambridge have? Reason I ask, is that Bonner to Harris to Monk doesn't scream consistency or anyone at the Club really knowing themselves.

I think Harris was likely to carry on the Bonner style to some degree, but with his own take on it. I don’t know enough about Monk’s style (I recall he played decent stuff at Swansea back in the day but struggling to remember after that). Think his job will be to keep us up then build a team in his mould next season, moving away from our current style if needed.

 

[AmberAndy]

Gary Monk on a two year contract, interesting.

 

[GEORGE]

Gary Monk on a two year contract, interesting.

Good appointment.

 

[Dan Phillips]

Piss off with your ginger chips.

 

[SVH]

It feels like a really good appointment on paper. Let’s hope he gets us enough points over the remaining 11 games so we can reset in the summer and let him build his own squad.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

It feels like a really good appointment on paper. Let’s hope he gets us enough points over that remaining 11 games so we can reset in the summer and let him build his own squad.

It will be interesting for us to see how he does for you. Apparently he was all set to get the job here before Matt Taylor got sacked from Rotherham and our owners decided to go for him instead.

 

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

What sort of squad style do Cambridge have? Reason I ask, is that Bonner to Harris to Monk doesn't scream consistency or anyone at the Club really knowing themselves.

Bonner to Harris was a pretty straightforward transition, both played a similar system. As much through necessity rather than design I'd imagine, but still. Suspect it'll be fairly similar with Monk in the short term, and the squad will need an overhaul in summer so then that's when (assuming things don't go pear shaped) whatever grand vision Monk has will be put to the test.

Consistency comes through the coaching staff all remaining in situ throughout and the structure we use now and so on, but yeah, essentially he's got to get a tune out of a workmanlike but uncreative midfield, a striker who's been designated messiah (and naughty boy...) and a defence that are largely solid enough but not the most mobile. Kaikai had the biggest upturn under Harris, so if that can continue then great.

There's enough to work with for now.

 

[Luke Imp]

I think Harris was likely to carry on the Bonner style to some degree, but with his own take on it. I don’t know enough about Monk’s style (I recall he played decent stuff at Swansea back in the day but struggling to remember after that). Think his job will be to keep us up then build a team in his mould next season, moving away from our current style if needed.

Bonner to Harris was a pretty straightforward transition, both played a similar system. As much through necessity rather than design I'd imagine, but still. Suspect it'll be fairly similar with Monk in the short term, and the squad will need an overhaul in summer so then that's when (assuming things don't go pear shaped) whatever grand vision Monk has will be put to the test.

Consistency comes through the coaching staff all remaining in situ throughout and the structure we use now and so on, but yeah, essentially he's got to get a tune out of a workmanlike but uncreative midfield, a striker who's been designated messiah (and naughty boy...) and a defence that are largely solid enough but not the most mobile. Kaikai had the biggest upturn under Harris, so if that can continue then great.

There's enough to work with for now.

Ta, I didn't realise Bonner was quite as direct at Harris is.

Monk is that longer term type managerial appointment that comes with the short term risk, which is the opposite of the Harris one. Interesting that your Board have opted for the former over the latter this time despite, on a points basis at least, being closer to the drop now than then.