FC UNITED OF MANCHESTER

[B2TF]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38115196

After suffering lectures from some of the pompous twats who support this strange organisation, and our club suffering an alleged boycott over ticket prices and the importance of "affordable football", may I respectfully suggest they set their prices at a level that will at least cover their expenses. It's not rocket science.

 

[Sparrow]

What league is this?

 

[Chris FGR]

What league is this?

It seems to include teams with tinpot predix's like FC United or FC Halifax so I assume the teams were made up in a run down northern pub somewhere by a load of pissheads.

Dog and Duck division 3 north maybe?

 

[WH_Stag]

It seems to include teams with tinpot predix's like FC United or FC Halifax so I assume the teams were made up in a run down northern pub somewhere by a load of pissheads.

Dog and Duck division 3 north maybe?

Forest green are the most tinpot club out of the lot. Each year we have to pray that an actual football club beats you to promotion and i really hope Lincoln do it. The league doesn't want another club like crawley and fleetwood floating about. There needs to be a rule about the standard of the club being welcomed into the league imo.

 

[Chris FGR]

Forest green are the most tinpot club out of the lot. Each year we have to pray that an actual football club beats you to promotion and i really hope Lincoln do it. The league doesn't want another club like crawley and fleetwood floating about. There needs to be a rule about the standard of the club being welcomed into the league imo.

Tinpot you say.

See you next season.

 

[gijsbert_bos]

Much as I agree with WH Stag, those pictures are hilarious and bring back some very fond memories.

 

[HG Yellow&Black]

To be fair to B2TF in the national pigeon fanciers North league all teams are tinpot, it's just that some teams are more tinpot than others....like the ones going bust to get out of paying Rastrick High school money owed or Mrs Firth.

Know they have their issues internally but fc united is a great club to visit as an away fan. Getting off their arses to do something positive in the community too. A proper clubs not a start up fc 2008 with illusions way above their station.

 

[Mark kavanagh]

The dog is cute i would look after him despite him being a stag

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Having my first view of fcum last season and working with an fcum fan if ever a term 'between a rock and a hard place' could be used it is for them.

For their older fans they simply cannot go higher........to do so loses them everything they wanted from heading into non-league in first place.....smoking and drinking on terrace, sat 3pm games, no tv and no commercial stuff.

Problem is the newer fans want progress and spending and board needs corporate and commercial to grow.....there lies massive conflicts

 

[Andy Harrier]

Having my first view of fcum last season and working with an fcum fan if ever a term 'between a rock and a hard place' could be used it is for them.

For their older fans they simply cannot go higher........to do so loses them everything they wanted from heading into non-league in first place.....smoking and drinking on terrace, sat 3pm games, no tv and no commercial stuff.

Problem is the newer fans want progress and spending and board needs corporate and commercial to grow.....there lies massive conflicts

Are we almost looking at another breakaway team? Maybe an AFC FC United of Manchester?

 

[Son of Cod]

"What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world." - Mansfield Town scarf dog letter to his heroes following deployment to League Two, May 2013.

 

[B2TF]

To be fair to B2TF in the national pigeon fanciers North league all teams are tinpot, it's just that some teams are more tinpot than others....like the ones going bust to get out of paying Rastrick High school money owed or Mrs Firth.

Know they have their issues internally but fc united is a great club to visit as an away fan. Getting off their arses to do something positive in the community too. A proper clubs not a start up fc 2008 with illusions way above their station.

0/10 See me.

 

[B2TF]

The dog is cute i would look after him despite him being a stag

Unfortunately the mutt is spoken for- it's Chris' bird.

 

[B2TF]

Forest green are the most tinpot club out of the lot. Each year we have to pray that an actual football club beats you to promotion and i really hope Lincoln do it. The league doesn't want another club like crawley and fleetwood floating about. There needs to be a rule about the standard of the club being welcomed into the league imo.

All that needs to happen is for Financial Fair Play to be enforced. It's just plain wrong that shit like this can buy a place in the greatest league in the world.

 

[dog]

All that needs to happen is for Financial Fair Play to be enforced. It's just plain wrong that shit like this can buy a place in the greatest league in the world.

If you think Cheltenham did it on the cheap...

 

[The_Boss]

Couldn't happen to a nicer club. Fuck FCUM.

 

[WH_Stag]

Tinpot you say.

See you next season.

I thought that was hilarious and really summed up our non league time quite nicely, it wasn't ever going to be the same as returning from wembley with a trophy to thousands and thousands of fans everywhere. ill take 5 wonderful years of non-league vs a pub team like forest green... i can't think of a reason why you would support such a team or any player have the desire to play there.

Can a team really be taken serious when it tried to copy barcelona's badge. i know of one team that did that and it was literally a kids team in Nottingham. shit team, shit fans, shit ground, shit kit, shit badge, shit history. Piss of back to your village sunday league and leave the EFL to the real clubs.

 

[B2TF]

Will you marry me.

 

[HG Yellow&Black]

I'll send Mrs Firth instead. She's bringing her collection bucket.

 

[FGRJC]

I thought that was hilarious and really summed up our non league time quite nicely, it wasn't ever going to be the same as returning from wembley with a trophy to thousands and thousands of fans everywhere. ill take 5 wonderful years of non-league vs a pub team like forest green... i can't think of a reason why you would support such a team or any player have the desire to play there.

Can a team really be taken serious when it tried to copy barcelona's badge. i know of one team that did that and it was literally a kids team in Nottingham. shit team, shit fans, shit ground, shit kit, shit badge, shit history. Piss of back to your village sunday league and leave the EFL to the real clubs.

 wow somebody is mad

Calling a whole fan base shit? Just shows what a tool you really are. I bet you're the man who made a video about Mansfield bus station, wish i could find that video.

 

[FGRJC]

Found it, now come back to me when you realise how tinpot your shit town is...

 

[B2TF]

Shit? Tin Pot you say?

 

[HG Yellow&Black]

Isn't this a bus stop in Mansfield? (sorry couldn't resist).

Think all clubs for one reason or not are tin pot at these levels of football. The wole argument is akin to the People's Front of Judea.
And your the worst B2TF you massive tin pot lover. I blame you.

 

[Jemfy]

There's a serious issue to discuss about finances, fan run clubs, levels and expectations and the thread is almost entirely WUMing.

I feel like an old git saying that the forum seems to be going the wrong way, despite how funny the Mansfield bus tour was.

In danger of bringing it back on topic there are a number of points about FCUM's situation which are unique and interesting. The split between fans who want different things from the club is probably the most unique, as they are probably one of the only clubs where the fans don't want them to progress too much and join the ranks of the more professional.

There's also an argument that they got in their current financial state due to the amount they have been putting in to community sides, which is interesting, though I assume the majority of the budget remains to be based around fueling the first team.

Then there's the point of failing to recognise a point of stagnation (no Masfield jokes, please), where the support has dropped off for a historically successful (on the field) club who are not clearly progressing. It always happens and clubs fail to plan for a reduced average attendance when it does, and that really makes the bubble popping go much worse.

Furthermore there is the issue that a large gap in the finances was created through funding the move and trying to sustain the on-pitch funding. I'm not an expert on how they financed their ground however, so I'll leave my uninformed opinion there, save to say that it's a bloody expensive outlay at £6.3M.

Finally there is the rise of Salford City, who threaten to take away the Man Utd fans who just want a cheaper game to go to but they want as much success. For these fans the protest aspect of the club isn't important, winning games and affordable prices are. This is local direct competition with as much of an excuse to follow as FCUM (justifying to their mates down the pub anyway) .

At least they appear to have started to address the issues before they end up in debt, with the new board looking to fix things. Hopefully they can get staff to move on or give them notice, cut down on their playing budget and move on.

It's even more interesting as a fan of a phoenix side that weren't fortunate enough to have a council gift us the old ground. Somehow we've got to fund our own place one day and not fall in to these pitfalls of hopeful finances etc. Quite a timely reminder for us too as we don't have anywhere to play next season yet (and absolutely no chance of buying/developing our own place).

 

[HG Yellow&Black]

Is a sad thing to see the last couple of years of increasing arguments and in fighting.

Having been a couple of times and not to go on about it too much but it is a fecking great away match.

Good city centre pubs, a tram up to Newton Heath and a free, club run exec coach up to the ground.

You can tell there are many, many good and passionate people who volunteer there - from the moment you get off the coach. The passion and pride in what they have created,, is something to see.

As is the bar area behind their kop. Spoke to a whole range of different folk - some crazy Germans over doing 4 matches in 3 days, a real old timer United bloke who had been watching football for 70yr+, some proper music buffs....

The pressure is showing, however on the costs associated with the new stadium and is presenting itself in the infighting.....and a woeful playing budget....apparently £200 a week max. That said how many points are they behind my mob on a damn sight more. They seem to be getting the youngsters starting to come through their youth teams too. Good on em.

They are a great example of the fact that dreams can be realised in football (we are not all held hostage by some jumped up prat at the helm - albeit they had a good starting base!)......but we are all human and the same vanities, egos etc that make many question and seethe at the way our clubs have been or are run come to the fore even in this unique club.

As you say Jemfy, they have a lot of competition and the more you see of their fans, a bigger number of flip flop fans seem to be present, who lack the passion of the core lot who started the club, in its noble, football for the people spirit. Quite a few still seem to go to United and treat FCUM as a bit of a hobby horse....and you get the feeling a fair few of those have lost interest since the early Gigg Lane days.

That said would i swap any day the BS i see regularly emanate from the laughable, nepotistism and shite, self serving hangers on at Harrogate Town who seem to want to turn us into a mini Premier league team whilst openly wanting to stop the more 'traditional' fan from going.

Think despite the current internal issues they need a tad more plaudits for doing what they have done and that lot from South Prestwich will never be a patch on FCUM.

A toy for a couple of millionaires....and a billionaire to play at being all grass roots with....so grass roots they leave people to experience a pitiful matchday experience just so you might spot a celebrity in your Man USA hat. Now they deserve real scorn.

 

[AnimoEtFide]

Have they still got that daft FCUM flag in the away end or have they got rid of it since we helpfully took it down for them? I want to say nice things about them as, despite being another arm of the Manchester United brand, they do good work in the community. But sticking your own flags in the away end and being outraged when it doesn't go down too well with the away fans was just so symptomatic of the sense they are so incredibly pleased with themselves that is palpable as soon as you get around their ground that it makes respecting them very difficult. There's a lot of naffness and cheesiness that comes with FCUM that more than matches the cyncial, cringeworthy marketing of the proper United ("Childhood Memories" flags anyone?) that it's sometimes difficult to tell them apart. It's all very try-hard.

 

[Son of Cod]

But sticking your own flags in the away end and being outraged when it doesn't go down too well with the away fans was just so symptomatic of the sense they are so incredibly pleased with themselves that is palpable as soon as you get around their ground that it makes respecting them very difficult.

Yep. The smug levels are through the roof. If you watched that BBC series a while back with no knowledge of football whatsoever, you could perhaps be forgiven for thinking that FCUM had invented Non-League football all by themselves.

 

[Son of Cod]

Yep. The smug levels are through the roof. If you watched that BBC series a while back with no knowledge of football whatsoever, you could perhaps be forgiven for thinking that FCUM had invented Non-League football all by themselves.

Just realised that series was about Salford, wasn't it?

 

[rudebwoyben]

It's true for both clubs though, isn't it?

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I think there is a difference in both. Mostly that while I can have reasons to dislike both, fcum is at least a genuine thing built by its fanbase which seems a large part of what non league is.........Salford meanwhile......the whole sorry thing is a fake sham......i watched them have to fabricate emotion for the tv! Then most of their fans who came to Curzon has absolutely zero association to that club apart from maybe 50

For the bbc to con viewers into thinking 'that' is non league football