Luton v Barnet

[Kenneth E End]

According to a Barnet fan:

Luton have a very good home record and today you could see why. They play a horrible game, they intimidate the opposition.

Completely wrong.

 

[Vanni]

The angle isn't the best, but Barnet's goal looks offside.

 

[Hatter86]

Thought their goal was more handball than offside, however my view of it was awful so will have to see if any more conclusive footage is about.

Much better than boxing day without being overly impressive against a limited Barnet side. Dembele and Akinde (Pen) were their best players however Cuthbert did a great job in controlling the latter. Might be some wor fork the groundsman filling in the divots where Akinde (Pen) hit the floor. He's a strange one. Clearly has the physical attributes and should just use them rather than trying to win fouls. Occasionally he is going to come up against a ref like the one today who by and large wasn't buying what he was peddling.

Hylton was again fantastic today and cannot fault him. McGeehan gets stick on some Luton pages for not offering enough, but 11 goals from midfield before the turn of the year is immense. Fairplay to Smith who came in and was solid. Still cant pass further than 10 yards though.

 

[Kenneth E End]

McGeehan has shit hair though.

 

[BelizeHatter]

Looking at the Sky Sports footage of the goals, Bira didn't look 'miles' offside. All of Luton's goals were wonderful strikes from distance, it has to be said.

Impossible to tell but his first reaction was to check the linesman - but that just means he knew it was close. We need the mystery camera used to overturn the Carlisle red card the other week to see

 

[Judge Dredd]

I thought McGeehan's all round game was good today aside from his goal which is the criticism that can be levelled against him sometimes, best game I've seen him have in a while. His goal ratio is obviously beyond question. Jones had a not so subtle pop at the anti McGeehan people in his post match interview.

 

[Hatter86]

I think there's just far to much expectation on McGeehan from some sections. He did so well, so young for us and we paid a significant fee for him and people expect him to be a world beater. In recent games he has come in for some stick from some as you say however in reality he's been no better nor worse than anyone else in the midfield. Listened to NJ's post match and I'm glad he addressed it. People forget how young he is and hes going to be a hell of a player.

 

[springerbfc]

Wasn't there but we seem to be slightly adrift of the quality required to break into the top 7.
That said, we've just splashed out a shed load on new players so top 7 is still an achievable, albeit hugely optimistic, target.

 

[Ban Fat Stan]

After the first 15 minutes where it was all Luton we got ourselves into the game before we go behind to an excellent free kick. That spurred us on and we thoroughly deserved our equaliser.
Unfortunately we played Luton when they finally put a performance in at home it seems although it was a good end to end first half and I thought we dealt with Hylton comfortably.

Second half Luton had a 5 minute spell and scored 2 good goals and then shut up shop.

I didn't come away that down hearted I actually thought Luton were okay just one of those games when everytime they shoot they scored.

It's exciting times at Barnet having spent some cash and having some of our young players in the side. Jack Taylor in central midfield today passed the ball and drove forward tackling hard for an 18 year old it's brilliant.

Luton will be in and around the playoffs although I suspect yesterdays performance isn't the norm. For us I don't think we will be too far behind with new players acquired.

 

[BeeArmy]

Mcgheehan shouldn't have even been on the pitch. He made two awful tackles in the first half, both worthy of a yellow each at least.

And the free kick for the first goal was a very soft foul. Luton players were falling all over the place all game.

That being said, Luton deserved the win purely based on three great strikes. I thought apart from the first ten mins of each half where we didn't turn up, we were the better team.

It hurts me to say that Hylton was absolutely brilliant. Even if he is a racist.

Not too down about it as I expected it. We always lose at Luton.

 

[Kenneth E End]

LOL this summary is the complete polar opposite of how I saw it.

The foul for the first goal was a clear professional foul. There were even more blatant challenges that somehow didn't result in the foul. McGeehan's yellow card wasn't even seen by the referee initially.

Luton players were falling all over the place because they were being fouled!

Danny Hylton IMO is the Top 3 strikers in the division alongside Bogle and Akinde. Seems to be something that the other promotion chasing sides seem to be missing.

 

[BeeArmy]

There was often contact but they were always making the most of it and making sure to dive forward with their legs up.

Maybe it was a clear foul and fair play he still has to put it in.

But I still stand by the fact Mcgheehan should have been off. Weston got booked for a trip in the first minute. Mcgheehan got nothing for a lunge on Campbell ryce without him getting near the ball. That was definitely a yellow and the tackle on Taylor was awful. Took him out without the ball and the Lino flagged so the booking was given.

 

[Urban]

LOL this summary is the complete polar opposite of how I saw it.

I'm SO SURPRISED by this

 

[Hatter86]

I'm SO SURPRISED by this

Almost as suprising as your comments regarding Luton

I didn't see it as an overly dirty game. I must admit I didn't see the McGeehan yellow card so can't comment on that but I didn't see anything to make me think one side should have finished with 10. Indeed, Dembele's early card was incredibly harsh. Being so early in the game you'd have thought the ref would have let it go, however he was generally poor throughout.

I have to say, whilst we were not great, I don't see Barnet as playoff contenders, even with a couple of players. After we went 3-1 up we were happy to sit in as there was nothing to suggest Barnet would be able to play their way through us. Any threat was going to come from balls into the box which is our achiles heal although I felt we dealt with them pretty well (Barnets goal aside which was debatable in its legality).

As an aside I was pretty critical of NJs starting eleven where he picked 8 defensive minded players and only one recognised striker at home, however it seemed to work so fairplay. That said we looked better once Dan Potts went off and Gilliead came on. Really need him to extend his loan or make it a permanent mood.

We were ok without be overly good. Effective I'd say. Nowehere near Donnie and Wycombe or Blackpool or Cambridge away which I feel have been our best league performances, but was a marked improvements on our recent home games. Looking forward to Portsmouth away tomorrow.

 

[Urban]

Almost as suprising as your comments regarding Luton

I didn't see it as an overly dirty game. I must admit I didn't see the McGeehan yellow card so can't comment on that but I didn't see anything to make me think one side should have finished with 10. Indeed, Dembele's early card was incredibly harsh. Being so early in the game you'd have thought the ref would have let it go, however he was generally poor throughout.

I have to say, whilst we were not great, I don't see Barnet as playoff contenders, even with a couple of players. After we went 3-1 up we were happy to sit in as there was nothing to suggest Barnet would be able to play their way through us. Any threat was going to come from balls into the box which is our achiles heal although I felt we dealt with them pretty well (Barnets goal aside which was debatable in its legality).

As an aside I was pretty critical of NJs starting eleven where he picked 8 defensive minded players and only one recognised striker at home, however it seemed to work so fairplay. That said we looked better once Dan Potts went off and Gilliead came on. Really need him to extend his loan or make it a permanent mood.

We were ok without be overly good. Effective I'd say. Nowehere near Donnie and Wycombe or Blackpool or Cambridge away which I feel have been our best league performances, but was a marked improvements on our recent home games. Looking forward to Portsmouth away tomorrow.

My comments about Luton's aren't all exaggerated though, are they? You DO have a shit away end, you DO have a proven racist playing up front for you (who is referred to by many as a dirty player too) and your fans DO give off some of the most ridiculous behaviours seen by people. It can't be too hard to see why Luton are fairly disliked by a lot of people on here.

As for the bolded comment... you're arguing against yourself. We'd have scouted you, seen that balls into the box are your weakness, looked at our squad (where wingers with decent deliveries are a strong point) and obviously made that our main attacking point. Why would we try to play through you when you're weak to crosses and we're fairly strong with them? Doesn't make sense.

 

[Hatter86]

Not sure what exageration has to do with it. Merely pointing out that your 'surprise' at Kenneth's disagreement which with the oppositions take on the game is equal to my surprise at your disparaging comments regarding Luton. Hardly new material is it from either party.

I think you have misunderstood my point regarding balls into the box. It wasn't a criticism or even something Barnet were doing for the first 60 minutes or so. However once we had the lead we sat back and defended the 18 yard box which meant the only real option for Barnet were balls into the box or strikes from range which we defended well, despte the former being a weakness of ours.

 

[Kenneth E End]

You DO have a shit away end, you DO have a proven racist playing up front for you (who is referred to by many as a dirty player too) and your fans DO give off some of the most ridiculous behaviours seen by people. It can't be too hard to see why Luton are fairly disliked by a lot of people on here.

How old are you?

Yes we have a shit away end. We have a shit home end too - but its our home and full of character. Fortunately I don't sit in our Main Stand, but anyone over 5 foot is going to struggle to sit down. The ground is 112 years old and we've been trying to leave for 60 years. It might actually happen this time, so sit tight for a few years and it'll come along.

A "proven racist" - I'm not going to comment on that, I don't really see the relevance in anything to do with this game.

In terms of our fans behaviour - I don't think there's been 1 arrest/charge at all this season (nor last season), despite probably taking around 20,000+ fans on the road so far this season. I think you need to get over yourself to be perfectly honest. In terms of this forum, it only seems to be the Barnet fans and a couple of others with chips on their shoulders regarding Luton. We're not horrible people; we're passionate football supporters.

 

[Urban]

How old are you?

Yes we have a shit away end. We have a shit home end too - but its our home and full of character. Fortunately I don't sit in our Main Stand, but anyone over 5 foot is going to struggle to sit down. The ground is 112 years old and we've been trying to leave for 60 years. It might actually happen this time, so sit tight for a few years and it'll come along.

A "proven racist" - I'm not going to comment on that, I don't really see the relevance in anything to do with this game.

In terms of our fans behaviour - I don't think there's been 1 arrest/charge at all this season (nor last season), despite probably taking around 20,000+ fans on the road so far this season. I think you need to get over yourself to be perfectly honest. In terms of this forum, it only seems to be the Barnet fans and a couple of others with chips on their shoulders regarding Luton. We're not horrible people; we're passionate football supporters.

I've said before I want your new ground to come through for you and I'm pleased there's been progress. It's desperately needed. But it doesn't make my comments on your current away end being shocking and barely fit for purpose any less true. Personally, the 'character' of a ground doesn't mean anything to me when I'm only there for 2 hours or so a season, if at all.

You knocked my comments about this game/Luton - I dislike Luton as you idolise a proven racist and dirty player like Hylton. Same thing for McCormick at Plymouth and any club that employs Lee Hughes.

Historically, Luton fans have always acted badly towards Barnet fans, so it's not surprising that you're not held in high regard.

 

[Ban Fat Stan]

Regarding mcgheean, if the ref is going to dish out a yellow after the first 2 minutes for a foul by Curtis westen then a foul hacking down Campbell Rice by Mcgheean should also get a yellow as it happened in a short space of time so it can't be that ref has forgotten what he just did. Its all irrelevant but just points out that Mcgheean was a tad fortunate.

For what its worth a like visiting Kenilworth Rd a great football ground. It makes me laugh people slagging off the surrounding area, they are going to watch 90 minutes of football not looking to setup residence.

A deserved win, is it fair to say that the performance by Luton was one of the better ones at home?

 

[Hatter86]

McGeehan certainly plays on the edge. He's not been sent off for us as far as I can recall but he has always got a yellow in him. He's pretty adept at staying on the right side of the ref which I suppose you have to applaud. Again, I didn't see his yellow card incident and can't recall the foul on Campbell-Ryce so I can't comment on today.

We're used to the comments regarding the ground and its surrounding area. Personally I like both but can see why it may not be everyones cup of tea. I do agree we need to move out of KR in order to progress and we are closer to that than ever before.

In terms of performance, it's probaly somewhere in the middle. We have been generally poor at home so it is probabaly our third best home league performance behind Doncaster and Wycombe, however I'd say we were no better than average yesterday. We have been considerably better away from home as we are a good counter attacking side, so this is why yesterdays performance falls somewhere in the middle.

 

[Kenneth E End]

Regarding mcgheean, if the ref is going to dish out a yellow after the first 2 minutes for a foul by Curtis westen then a foul hacking down Campbell Rice by Mcgheean should also get a yellow as it happened in a short space of time so it can't be that ref has forgotten what he just did.

The referee was painfully inconsistent yesterday, which is what drives fans crazy. What's worrying is that he's within the Top 40 referees in the country (Select Group 2 referee).

I saw the incident on JCR - it was absolutely a yellow card.

 

[BelizeHatter]

I'll bite. Why is Hylton a racist? Proven I think without bothering to read further up.Not denying just wondering where it's from

 

[BeeArmy]

I'll bite. Why is Hylton a racist? Proven I think without bothering to read further up.Not denying just wondering where it's from

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ker-Daniel-Hylton-banned-racist-outburst.html

 

[Urban]

I'll bite. Why is Hylton a racist? Proven I think without bothering to read further up.Not denying just wondering where it's from

Nothing meant as a bite - it's a fact. He was found guilty of racial insults to Izard McLeod when playing for Aldershot against us a few years back