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the middle east Thread

Discussion in 'News & Current Affairs' started by Dr Mantis Toboggan, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. Carver

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    no
     
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    Tommy Robinson is a well qualified theolog..... oh....
     
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    BBC reporting that the last IS controlled City in Syria has now been taken by "the Syrian government army and its allies".
     
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    Little doubt now as to who will be in control of Syria post war. Hopefully we can put pressure on Syria through targeted sanctions for Assad to release political prisoners.
     
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    Interesting events in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon the last two weeks, I've written an article on it which I'll post as soon as it gets uploaded.
     
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    If your article isn't talking about the Zionist triangle between Israel, Saud & the US you'll have missed the mark.
     
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    Israel isn't dumb. It knows Saudi Arabia is an awful ally which thinks it can buy its way around international diplomacy and abandon allies at the drop of a hat. They also know Hezbollah is stronger than ever. Not going to be a war.


    edit: unless hezbollah does something dumb which I don't think it will
     
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    It can buy it's way around international diplomacy, that's exactly what it's been doing. Israel & Saudi's enemies are the same and that's why they've worked together in secret for decades. Ofc Israel isn't dumb, they're running the world.
     
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    What we think of these Iranian protests? Much ado about nothing or another revolution on the cards? I’m finding it fascinating people are calling for the Shah’s return.
     
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    what's next in your reading list after the elders of zion protocols you appalling pillock?
     
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    Here's about 1500 words of my hot take- https://levantinepolitics.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/what-i-s-going-on-in-iran/

    I would be cautious about taking slogans as representative of general opinion.
     
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    who are these recent numpties - not real people shirely
     
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    More War Crimes in Eastern Ghouta
     
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    Assad, on the brink of victory after years of a multifaceted bitter war - decides to set off chemical weapons on an already beaten enemy to receive world condemnation and face military intervention from the biggest military power the world has ever seen.

    This all seems very legit :dk:

    In the blue corner we have the reigning and defending champions; USA, UK, EU, Israel, Saudi Arabia

    In the red corner we have the former champions; Russia, Iran, Syria, Yemen

    It's been nice knowing you guys.
     
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    Things will kick off if that happens.

    Even former BNP leader Nick Griffin has said that he is considering voting for CORBYN’S LABOUR over all this latest Syria business.

    Has anybody else seen Donald Trump calling out Russia on social media? What a fucking weird world we live in.
     
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    Weird how the rebels keep gassing their own families instead of the soldiers attacking them isn't it. Maybe has something to do with the fact that victory whilst almost certain, is a long way off, and negotiations in Ghouta had come to a halt with Jaysh al-Islam refusing to accept Assad's terms.
     
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    So we're bombing Syria.

    This will all end marvellously of course
     
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    Involving the British Armed Forces would have been an act of folly even with parliamentary consent, but not consulting parliament is unforgivable, especially when the polling data produced so far suggests that public support for UK involvement is ~20%.

    Bring on the next General Election so I can vote Labour, please. Seriously.
     
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    May does not respect parliament, having already tried to trigger Brexit without a vote, we now find ourselves bombing another country without even a debate.
     
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    The world is governed by idiots hellbent on having another Cold War and here we are folks, if there's any doubt we didn't have one before, we do now. Nice way to detract from flawed domestic policies getting in the way of things.

    Can't allow Russia to get a foothold in the Middle East can we? Assad is on the verge of winning the war with Russian (and Iranian) support. So we strike them but I don't think it'll make much difference to the outcome.

    My job takes me abroad every so often and I was doing some training in Egypt recently. There in Cairo are lots of Syrian refugees and business people who take advantage of the visa free policy the two countries have. Speaking to them, they'd rather have Assad in power and confirmed what I already knew. The rebels are fundamentalists which would cede control of the area to ISIS. None of them said that they love Assad or anything but they said culturally Syria is a progressive Islamic country that doesn't want to be governed by sharia law, under Assad that wouldn't happen. At least that's what the people I spoke to said. Just let countries have self-determination and if they fuck it up then it's on them isn't it.
     
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    "victory whilst almost certain - is/was a long way off" - err what?

    "Weird how the rebels keep gassing their own families" - what proof do you have for this?

    "negotiations in Ghouta had come to a halt with Jaysh al-Islam refusing to accept Assad's terms" - they were defeated - any refusal is futile
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    doesn't matter now - we've blown up all the "evidence" before weapons inspectors could inspect - as i said before - this is totally legitimate
     
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    tbf to may she didn't have a choice - she is in no position to resist the neo-cons enacting their agenda even if she wanted to - it is a sad situation when we have a prime minister that is too weak to do anything other than what she is told -
     
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    I don't see what the big deal is. Finally the coalition is taking action to Putin's stubborn stance on Syria and trying to do something about Assad's teargas methods. It could all masssively backfire of course as another leader may not be able to control the country like he does (by killing anyone who disagrees with him that is) à la Saddam.

    We shall see. Putin needs to own up now. Reckon it's another Vietnam rather than a cold war 2.0.
     
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    there has been no proof assad was behind the alleged chem attacks- and they've just blown to smithereens what could have been cast iron evidence proving his guilt

    should putin take action on usa/uk's stubborn stance on yemen?
     
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    May didn't seek consent from parliament because she's a weak PM who saw it as an opportunity to look decisive and strong. I'm wondering also how much her reliance on post Brexit trade deals with the US played a part in her decision. We know Trump is like a petulant child and if May refused to be an ally on the bombing he might spit the dummy out on trade deals, or at least that's how she might perceive it.
     
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