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shane

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I could watch that knockout all day long. Right in front of Hearn too. Take that.

Bellew won the first 3 rounds while Usyk was warming up. Broke him down and Bellew gassed out.
I wasn’t a TB lover before the fight but massive respect to him against what was very clearly a fighter in a completely different league.

Unbelievable KO.
 

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I wasn’t a TB lover before the fight but massive respect to him against what was very clearly a fighter in a completely different league.

Unbelievable KO.
He did well until Usyk made the adjustments I thought. There was no way he could beat the man over 12 rounds as Usyk is the younger and fitter man, Bellew has been in one too many wars.

That's about the 6th time Usyk has gone into someone's hostile backyard and come out with the win. Bellew has been conclusively knocked out twice and they've both been to southpaws. He was also floored by Makubu who was a southpaw. He's had a good career though.
 

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He did well until Usyk made the adjustments I thought. There was no way he could beat the man over 12 rounds as Usyk is the younger and fitter man, Bellew has been in one too many wars.

That's about the 6th time Usyk has gone into someone's hostile backyard and come out with the win. Bellew has been conclusively knocked out twice and they've both been to southpaws. He was also floored by Makubu who was a southpaw. He's had a good career though.
I was hugely impressed by the opening rounds but once Usyk wobbled him at the bell, the writing was on the wall.

Usyk will presumably make the move to HW in 2019 but not sure he’s big enough for the likes of AJ or Fury. He’s definitely smarter and more skillled than AJ but not sure he can get anywhere near his power. Could probably say the same for Wilder but in terms of ring smarts, Wiler is basically a toddler with a massive swing. Further, as ever, is a difficult to predict. Ursyk Fury could be the fight to hope for.
 

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I was hugely impressed by the opening rounds but once Usyk wobbled him at the bell, the writing was on the wall.

Usyk will presumably make the move to HW in 2019 but not sure he’s big enough for the likes of AJ or Fury. He’s definitely smarter and more skillled than AJ but not sure he can get anywhere near his power. Could probably say the same for Wilder but in terms of ring smarts, Wiler is basically a toddler with a massive swing. Further, as ever, is a difficult to predict. Ursyk Fury could be the fight to hope for.
I don't think there's any way Usyk could deal with AJ, just not happening. He is just far too big and powerful to cope with.

I'd back Usyk to maybe beat someone shorter like Parker. If he's going to HW then he needs very selective matchmaking as despite that KO I don't believe Usyk has great power to take up there. If they can base Usyk in the UK from now I can see him being built very nicely at HW. But as I say, with very selective matchmaking.
 

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The big heavies like AJ would probably walk through Usyk and break him eventually, Bellew was clipping him with some heavy right hands, AJ or a Wilder clips him with that and it's lights out. He can definitely win a belt at Heavy but they need to match him carefully and hope AJ has to vacate one. Fair play Bellew though has massively overachieved in his career and is a multi millionaire.

How bad was the undercard last night btw, glad I used an illegal stream. Dave Allen needs to go and sign with Frank Warren, has Hearn ever given this guy a proper training camp? He's 26 and seems punch drunk already.
 

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I disagree with Usyk struggling at heavyweight. I could easily see him potshotting for the early rounds and taking over as the fight progresses. He'd give the big guys nightmares from 7 onwards. I think he cleans out the division.
 

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With Usyk, if you're a Deontay Wilder, or an Anthony Joshua or even a Dillian Whyte, you just rush Usyk pretty early. Throw big hellacious heavyweight hooks and straight rights with power. See what happens when one lands on Usyk with genuine heavyweight power. I don't think any of the heavyweights could outbox him, but he's not a true heavyweight at the end of the day. Usyk isn't going to KO you with one shot power, so just see how he responds to you landing a couple of bombs.

What about Fury vs Wilder fight then? I can see Fury dominating the score cards until the middle rounds/second half the fight, then get caught by one leaning away, or against the ropes. Fury is better boxer, no doubt, but you tend to think Wilder will connect at some point and it's how Fury reacts. Wilder and Joshua are the types of heavyweight with that type of power that even if you catch it on your guard, or try to ride the punch, it still messes you up. I'd love Fury to win and if I was forced to put money in it I'd probably go for a Fury decision, but I can't get away from this thought that Wilder will catch him at some point while Fury is trying to lean away from one, which will probably be good night.
 

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I'll believe it when it happens. It's nowhere near a sellout.

I see Fury spoiling again, making it awful and just pitter-patter nicking early rounds but I just can't see Wilder not landing something huge at some point. Plus Wilder will know Fury hasn't got the power to stop him so is likely to throw even more caution to the wind than usual.
 

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