Question, would YOU as supporters support my tinpot chancers being in L2 next season?

[KeithH]

I really do not know what to think.

 

[shoddycollins]

In principle it's a good idea but I think would need to be decided before the January transfer window opens. If the EFL move the goalposts after that point on how many teams get relegated from League Two it could have repercussions.

 

[Gladders]

Only if proven to be sustainable, not if your just going to come back under current owners or new owners having loads of debt.

Best thing for Bury would to be restart as a new club without the debt and rebuild a community club. No point if just going to be shaking buckets again in a few years

 

[KeithH]

If any of 6 names are connected (even at a bloody huge distance) I could not support the new owners. (will always support the club but is sprit thats US not them)
Should a whole new ownership, with bloody tight supervision from For Ever Bury and the EFL be in place I would actually get some sodding work done!!

 

[E10rifle]

Nope. Sorry. Things need to change across the board, especially at the EFL, but I don’t see why an exception should be made for Bury when other similar instances (Darlo, Halifax, Chester, Maidstone etc.) have resulted in clubs starting again. Bury won’t die - far from it - because you supporters won’t let it happen. I think you’ll be better for it in the long run.

 

[valefan16]

No I think it opens too many cans of worms now. The 23rd placed team will likely kick off etc. Feel for the fans but the EFL have made their bed and should lie in it.

One suggestion though I saw on the Vale forum about it was maybe allow in L2 but on -30 points or something (i assume regardless -12 will still be in place if allowed in).

Issue would be even if agreed Bury need to be sold and will have no income for 9 months whilst the ground problems still exist so could still liquidate at any time during that period.

 

[Bottega Don]

Nah we need you to go down to give us more of a chance of staying up

 

[JJ1532]

Not a chance.

The only way teams will learn in the future is with a severe punishment. Letting Bury back in 12 months later a league below is no punishment, they would have struggled through this season in L1 and been back there next August anyway.

Let one of the L2 sides keep their place. Or maybe keep it at 2 and let a third National League side up.

 

[KeithH]

Nope. Sorry. Things need to change across the board, especially at the EFL, but I don’t see why an exception should be made for Bury when other similar instances (Darlo, Halifax, Chester, Maidstone etc.) have resulted in clubs starting again. Bury won’t die - far from it - because you supporters won’t let it happen. I think you’ll be better for it in the long run.

Don't be sorry, your opinion is yours and nobody else has the right to judge it.
I'm torn in 2 and very confused, however, I will never judge anybody else for not agreeing with what I (as a Bury fan) cannot justify myself.

 

[GEORGE]

I think any true football fan would support Bury in getting back to the league. But you would need to prove sustainability first.

 

[MatthewArgyle]

Nope imo I think Bury should start either in the North West League or Northern Premier League

 

[E10rifle]

Don't be sorry, your opinion is yours and nobody else has the right to judge it.
I'm torn in 2 and very confused, however, I will never judge anybody else for not agreeing with what I (as a Bury fan) cannot justify myself.

Not sorry for the opinion. More sorry for the fans, and the (hopefully) medium term suffering you would endure. Always the fans who suffer. Obviously it was nearly us a couple of seasons ago. I was ready for the Phoenix club. We lucked out. The whole EFL needs ripping up, root and branch.

I think any true football fan would support Bury in getting back to the league. But you would need to prove sustainability first.

I resent the implication there.

 

[Son of Cod]

No fucking way. Sorry, it's harsh on the fans however Bury are repeat offenders and this whole saga has devalued the entire division with there now only being one relegation spot. It's a slap in the face to all National League teams letting you back in at L2 level as well.

 

[Chris FGR]

I suggested exactly what's being suggested now by Bury/mayor/EFL, and it got rubbished on here. Maybe it wasn't such a stupid idea after all, eh.

I vote yes btw, because if my club was in that position I would want the same thing to happen, and I'm not a fucking hypocrite. That's provided a decent owner comes in obviously.

 

[oakroader]

this is nearly the time for red nose day,comic relief etc...i'm all sympathised out....

 

[Spanishstag]

Not a chance afraid ,you will have to start anew ,your problems are not just the recent ones its been coming for a while in all reallity

 

[KeithH]

Up to a quarter of league clubs could be joining us
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spo...StCxYqO60mFWWGDCfAau8Acc18It-buKnjloyFiwUd7v0
For all football fans sake I bloody hope none of you have to go through this it sucks

 

[Vanni]

I suggested exactly what's being suggested now by Bury/mayor/EFL, and it got rubbished on here. Maybe it wasn't such a stupid idea after all, eh.

I vote yes btw, because if my club was in that position I would want the same thing to happen, and I'm not a fucking hypocrite. That's provided a decent owner comes in obviously.

Well, I'm not a hypocrite because if it were the U's then no I wouldn't want the same thing to happen because it's not all about me me me you know.

I bet you wouldn't be talking about hypocrisy if your club is the one that's in 23rd place this season or next season. Or the one after that and so on, 'cos that's what's going to happen if Bury get their way. Loads of Championship and L1 clubs will overstretch themselves in the coming years and go pop, and then expect to start afresh in L2 the following season.

 

[Si Robin]

As others have said - Bury simply can't be parachuted back in to League 2 next season. It sets a very dangerous precedent.

I feel for the Bury fans, but it's never happened before (someone else mentioned Newport, Maidstone and Aldershot) and it shouldn't happen now.

 

[KeithH]

Interesting opinions, my heart clearly says God yes but my head?
All bye the bye if we cannot rid ourself of the scum that own / owned us and start completely afresh mind.

 

[Chris FGR]

Well, I'm not a hypocrite because if it were the U's then no I wouldn't want the same thing to happen because it's not all about me me me you know.

I bet you wouldn't be talking about hypocrisy if your club is the one that's in 23rd place this season or next season. Or the one after that and so on, 'cos that's what's going to happen if Bury get their way. Loads of Championship and L1 clubs will overstretch themselves in the coming years and go pop, and then expect to start afresh in L2 the following season.

Stop virtue signalling..

Bury fans have been through enough shit, they shouldn't have gone up last season and as it turns out they haven't taken their place in league 1 which is punishment enough. If they get decent owners and pay off all creditors in full, there is no reason why they shouldn't take their place in league 2, where they would have been anyway next season if they'd beaten the deadline last week.

Clubs knew at the start of this season that the bottom 2 were going down, no one's budgets have changed because of Bury's situation so no complaints if that happens and we finish 23rd.

It's up to the EFL to start making sure this doesn't happen more often. Punishing fans and communities for their own incompetence is not the answer.

 

[T.A]

No I dont think we should be allowed in the league and tbqh I'm not sure I want to be as the EFL arent in a great shape and its quite likely teams will be having problems again. What I really want is for us to stay as Bury Fc and to be rid of any cancerous negatives that have been around in the past 5/6 years. I'd enjoy us playing football again at any level. There seems to be a lot of factions in our small fan base and I'm not sure we'd be able to do anything with a new club.

 

[Fedora Dale]

I like Bury, and wish their demise hadn't happened. But it has.

No players, no ground (Steve Dale will never sell). So no way will they be ready for August 2020 at Football League, or indeed National League level. The longer the denial goes on, the less chance of a Bury Phoenix club joining the NWCL or wherever and starting again.

And why should Bury be fast-tracked in front of Notts County, Chesterfield, Stockport or Wrexham, all with long Football League pedigrees, and all of whom are likely to get bigger Gates than Bury (or Rochdale, before the obvious is pointed out!)...

Sorry, the Carnival is Over.

 

[T.A]

Steve Dale doesnt own the ground.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

No

 

[Fedora Dale]

Steve Dale doesnt own the ground.

Wasn't it used as security for a loan, which after various shenanigans and transfers on and offshore has now come into the hands of his daughter's boyfriend??

 

[valefan16]

As others have said - Bury simply can't be parachuted back in to League 2 next season. It sets a very dangerous precedent.

I feel for the Bury fans, but it's never happened before (someone else mentioned Newport, Maidstone and Aldershot) and it shouldn't happen now.

It actually has happened before... kind of!

In the 50's Vale under Sir Stanley Matthews got expelled from the EFL but got back in through the re-election system at the time. Was a harsh punishment mind for an innocent error.

 

[T.A]

Wasn't it used as security for a loan, which after various shenanigans and transfers on and offshore has now come into the hands of his daughter's boyfriend??

The ground is mortgaged to Capital Bridge finance which is based in Liverpool. Dale or any of his family have nothing to do with it. Dale's Daughters boyfriend bought Days Merderco debt for 70k which is as dodgy as it comes.. however the police are now looking into it so lets hope these people get what they deserve.

 

[Luke Imp]

The MP's up there seem to be overestimating the support they think they have IMO and I think they're wasting their time.

I'd be amazed if Clubs voted to reinstate them (I'm not sure it can even go to a vote per se?).

 

[Chris FGR]

And why should Bury be fast-tracked in front of Notts County, Chesterfield, Stockport or Wrexham, all with long Football League pedigrees, and all of whom are likely to get bigger Gates than Bury (or Rochdale, before the obvious is pointed out!)...

Sorry, the Carnival is Over.

Those teams all finished in the relegation zone, so deserved to go down. Bury haven't finished anywhere near it, they have in effect finished bottom of league 1 so why should they be relegated twice?