Admission Prices 2019/2020.

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£15 adults
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u12 (with paying adult) Free
 

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I fully expect our gates to continue on their downward spiral regardless of next season's match day prices

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I guess this is to cover the difference from last seasons parachute payment
300k gap to plug I suspect. Also probably lead to STs going up and us slashing the playing budget.
 

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Just found out that St Albans are charging £18 next season... yep, good luck with that!
 

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Just found out that St Albans are charging £18 next season... yep, good luck with that!
They've come up with a strangely convoluted pricing structure featuring small discounts for buying in advance and even higher prices (£20 on the gate) for FA Cup and Trophy matches beyond the qualifying rounds:

https://www.stalbanscityfc.com/admission-prices-2019-20/

They were already one of only three, maybe four, clubs charging £15 last season in a division where £13 is par and several were only £12. Their own supporters are already talking about boycotting home games.
 

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Our stupid season ticket and ground admission is back to last season prices.
Indicating we won’t be moving till after October
 

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After relegation it is £15 for adults either standing or seated and just £10 for concessions.
 

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St Albans charging £18 on the gate is a proper pisstake. I know land covenants prevent any redevelopment work at Clarence Park but it's a concrete mess with no cover behind either goal, hardly somewhere to generate an atmosphere.

Previously I've paid £15 but spent nothing inside, now I'm flat out boycotting the fixture despite living less than half and hour from Clarence Park. If supporters continue to go (even if they boycott buying anything inside the ground) then this will encourage other club owners to raise prices to similar levels.

Enough is enough.
 

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Previously I've paid £15 but spent nothing inside, now I'm flat out boycotting the fixture despite living less than half and hour from Clarence Park. If supporters continue to go (even if they boycott buying anything inside the ground) then this will encourage other club owners to raise prices to similar levels.

Enough is enough.
I've taken this approach for years with any clubs charging more than my own. I stopped buying programmes around 7 or 8 years ago when admission prices began rising beyond £8 (this was at Isthmian D1S level) meaning the change from a tenner on the gate was insufficient. Throw in the fact that train fares typically outstrip inflation every year and it feels significantly more expensive to follow your team away.

I'm reluctant to boycott any club on principle, and St Albans is a nice town for a pub crawl and a bit of culture as well as being one of the cheapest and easiest journeys for me - I only live a mile from London Bridge and it's £6 return on the Thameslink line. Even if their near neighbours Hemel charge a fiver less on the gate I'll probably spend more as it's a more fiddly and expensive journey. However if we're on a poor run of form, or there are rail engineering works, or the weather is foul it might just tip the balance if I'm wavering.

The real losers are any loyal Saints fans who can't afford to pay upfront for a season ticket, i.e. those who are least well off and already finding £15 a bit steep.

I believe this price increase shows a lack of vision and foresight. If the club is running at a loss each season they need to grow bigger crowds. Even if no one walks away you don't encourage new supporters like this, it's just papering over the cracks.

Several years ago my club took a view that "there are lots of empty spaces in our ground every week, let's find ways to get people in to fill them even if we don't charge them on the gate because they'll buy stuff once they're inside". Average attendance has risen 1000% inside a decade and is now the highest for 60 years. Beer sales have gone crazy, while it's not unusual now for our clubshop to sell 100+ scarves a match. As well as the bar scarves in club colours there are frequent special edition scarves that soon sell out and many people collect all of them, not to mention all sorts of other merchandise.
 

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By continuing to visit St. Albans however, it's another number on the attendance figure and gives other owners the justification to raise their own club's prices way above the rate of inflation. I feel for Saints supporters caught in this predicament, however boycotting is the only way to hammer home to everybody in this league that certain admission prices are too much.

What Dulwich have done is absolutely spot on. It's yet to be confirmed but I hope we maintain our price of £13 on the gate but £125 adult season tickets are a steal, 500+ ST's sold the past two years and there will be people amongst those 500 who would otherwise have never visited the Vale. Of course had we been entertaining/successful at home these past couple of years there would have been the mutual benefit of these extra supporters encouraging friends and families who pay their admission money and spend money behind the bar/shop, which then attracts better sponsors, rinse and repeat.
 

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By continuing to visit St. Albans however, it's another number on the attendance figure and gives other owners the justification to raise their own club's prices way above the rate of inflation. I feel for Saints supporters caught in this predicament, however boycotting is the only way to hammer home to everybody in this league that certain admission prices are too much.
The thing is if you're one of those people who goes to every away game it's going to feel a bit self-flagellatory to boycott this one, especially if you're team is going well and you're enjoying the matches.

I went to all 21 home games last season (playing nearly half of them at Tooting was an endurance test at times, as well as wasting an extra fiver or so in travel fares each time while our own ground lay dormant) and 18 out of 21 away. I missed Woking as I had something unexpected to deal with and didn't have time to get there for kick off, and I missed Torquay and Chippenham as I just didn't have the spare cash at the time and prioritised other fixtures either side.

Clubs have to do what's best for their own supporters regardless of what away fans think. (Hamlet get all sorts of flak from away supporters moaning about this, that or the other.) A lot of Hamlet supporters would have boycotted Woking had they not gone up because of their matchday arrangements (segregation, heavy handed stewarding, lack of amenities within the ground, general ambience) but at the end of the day that's a pinprick to Woking if 1,800 home fans are happy enough to keep turning up.

In this case there's a clear consensus that St Albans have gone too far and there's talk of a boycott on their forum. How serious that is remains to be seen. I'm sure some away fans will stay away too, but personally I'm not prepared to commit to being one of them just yet.
 

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We still don't know how much our matchday prices are, no announcement from the club yet.
 

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Of course had we been entertaining/successful at home these past couple of years there would have been the mutual benefit of these extra supporters encouraging friends and families who pay their admission money and spend money behind the bar/shop, which then attracts better sponsors, rinse and repeat.[/QUOTE]

You were not successful when I visited in 2015 lost to Chelmsford, but I still had a good day and spent plenty in bar and shop :)
 

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The thing is if you're one of those people who goes to every away game it's going to feel a bit self-flagellatory to boycott this one, especially if you're team is going well and you're enjoying the matches.

I went to all 21 home games last season (playing nearly half of them at Tooting was an endurance test at times, as well as wasting an extra fiver or so in travel fares each time while our own ground lay dormant) and 18 out of 21 away. I missed Woking as I had something unexpected to deal with and didn't have time to get there for kick off, and I missed Torquay and Chippenham as I just didn't have the spare cash at the time and prioritised other fixtures either side.

Clubs have to do what's best for their own supporters regardless of what away fans think. (Hamlet get all sorts of flak from away supporters moaning about this, that or the other.) A lot of Hamlet supporters would have boycotted Woking had they not gone up because of their matchday arrangements (segregation, heavy handed stewarding, lack of amenities within the ground, general ambience) but at the end of the day that's a pinprick to Woking if 1,800 home fans are happy enough to keep turning up.

In this case there's a clear consensus that St Albans have gone too far and there's talk of a boycott on their forum. How serious that is remains to be seen. I'm sure some away fans will stay away too, but personally I'm not prepared to commit to being one of them just yet.

“You going to Woking away this weekend?”

“Nah”

“Why?”

“General ambience”
 

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I thought most League 2 prices were a rip off but after seeing what some of you poor sods are having to pay to watch non league football I suddenly feel like I’m getting a good deal.
 

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What happened between 03/04 and 13/14 which resulted in you getting less home fans in the Championship than League Two?

It's a strange one isn't it? We went into 03/04 on a real high after a couple of very successful seasons, there was a massive feelgood factor about the club and that drew more people in. Even though we were in the Championship in 13/14 it wasn't quite the same feeling, coupled with higher ticket prices which will have lost a few floating fans. Haven't recovered since.
 

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St Albans charging £18 on the gate is a proper pisstake. I know land covenants prevent any redevelopment work at Clarence Park but it's a concrete mess with no cover behind either goal, hardly somewhere to generate an atmosphere.

Enough is enough.

Just seen that - more than a lot of lower league clubs I suspect!
 

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Playing devil's advocate, £3 extra sounds a lot. But by the time you've paid for transport, beer, food, programme, or whatever you spend that day, it's not much in the grand scheme of things. It's not as if there is some greedy businessman making a big pile of money out of all those three pounds. Most clubs are skint.
 

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“You going to Woking away this weekend?”

“Nah”

“Why?”

“General ambience”
Alright, I'll try to simplify:

Will I go to Woking the next time the fixture comes up? Probably not, because the club acts like they don't want away supporters there at all and treats them like shit. (In contrast to the vast majority of other clubs in the division last season, who were friendly and welcoming just about without exception.) That's Woking FC's prerogative. They get 1,800 of their own supporters, they seem to regard it as a hassle to segregate and accommodate a couple of hundred away fans. Fine. Most supporters of all clubs rarely go to any away games. Most of those who do don't go to all of them. I like to plan the occasional weekend away dong something different during the football season, so that'll be an easy one to miss if it happens again. Hope that helps.
 

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Playing devil's advocate, £3 extra sounds a lot. But by the time you've paid for transport, beer, food, programme, or whatever you spend that day, it's not much in the grand scheme of things. It's not as if there is some greedy businessman making a big pile of money out of all those three pounds. Most clubs are skint.
I'm sure a lot of people spend £50+ on an away trip at this level when you factor in all those other costs, especially if it's one of the longer trips and a few beers are involved, in which case £53 instead of £50 isn't likely to make the difference between literally not being able to afford to go. I mean you could just have one less pint for a start, but imagine if each of those other costs went up by 20%, and it was the same for every match. That's a couple of hundred quid extra over the season.

For the away fan just one club doing this isn't a big deal. The issues for me are: (a) if everyone just shrugs their shoulders and pays up will other clubs put their prices up too? (b) it hits those St Albans fans on the tightest budget hardest, i.e. those who can't pay up front for a season ticket, those who may not be able to afford every game as it is.

There's also the ridiculous range of different prices. If they can afford to charge "only" £16.50 for advance online sales why can't they just make it that price on the gate too?
 

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I wonder if they think because St Albans is an affluent area they feel locals can afford such prices.

Might be in for a shock though!
 

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We've finally announced our prices. They've simplified the structure and reduced them by £4 so credit where credit's due.

£13 for the home terrace is ok by me.

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