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Updated the incoming player list. Bath are putting together a tidy side.
 

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Chelmsford have signed Scott Davies from Oxford City, now there's a player who still divides opinion amongst Stones supporters. I'll guarantee that Rod Stringer will get the best out of him.
 

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Chelmsford have signed Scott Davies from Oxford City, now there's a player who still divides opinion amongst Stones supporters. I'll guarantee that Rod Stringer will get the best out of him.

Is that the central midfielder? If so, I thought he was OK!

I'd expect some of ours to drop back down to this level. All of the players McMahon intends on keeping have been offered new deals, but it appears a few are hoping to get a better deal from us. Doubt we'll bow down.
 

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Jack Deaman has left and joined Hereford. Turning into a City old boys club there, that's 5 players I think in their team from us. He's more than good enough for that level but was a tad inconsistent in the north. Great one week and then look disinterested the next, leading to some silly mistakes. Had a tendency to make pointless rash challenges as well. He wants to get back into the Football League, wish him the best but can't say I see it happening.
 

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Is that the central midfielder? If so, I thought he was OK!

I'd expect some of ours to drop back down to this level. All of the players McMahon intends on keeping have been offered new deals, but it appears a few are hoping to get a better deal from us. Doubt we'll bow down.

Aye, that's who you'll be thinking of. Fully expecting him to turn it on when we play Chelmsford this season.
 

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Aye, that's who you'll be thinking of. Fully expecting him to turn it on when we play Chelmsford this season.

Always the way!

Up until this season, we've been known for having former players come back to haunt us.
 

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Rollin Menayse has left us for the Gas. What a fucking name though :lol:
 

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my favourite was a baseball player called Stubby Clapp
 

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my favourite was a baseball player called Stubby Clapp
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Tom Hamblin has left us to join Hemel then. I won't deny that it's a blow but it's not as disastrous as I'm almost certain Stones supporters will make. Ball playing centre half, excellent in the air but he gets bullied off the ball by any strong centre forward.

Good signing for the Tudors mind and they've added that with Callum Driver and Phil Walsh, the latter I think is severely underrated. One to watch out for next season.
 

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I see several players has dropped ship from Truro City to Taunton Town of the Evo Stik South and West.

Can see Truro struggling even more than last year.
 

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I see several players has dropped ship from Truro City to Taunton Town of the Evo Stik South and West.

Can see Truro struggling even more than last year.

I'd have them and Whitehawk earmarked for the drop already. Braintree if rumour is to be believed have had to significantly reduce their budget too.
 

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Are Whitehawk the first millionaire's plaything to give up before they actually make it to the Football League?
 

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Colne Dynamoes were the very first, back in 1990!

Of course! Barrow beat them in the Trophy semi-final in 1990 and apparently sent them spiralling back into obscurity. Or so I've read...
 

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Of course! Barrow beat them in the Trophy semi-final in 1990 and apparently sent them spiralling back into obscurity. Or so I've read...
Ha! Not quite. In true tinpot but bankrolled fashion their ground was nowhere near Conference standard so the bankroller (Michael White?) threw his toys out of the pram and pulled the plug but yes, Barrow did beat them in the FA Trophy semi-finals back when the FA Trophy was taken seriously.
 

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Thinking back, weren't Grays and Canvey Island similar projects at one point? Billericay surely the next to implode.

Canvey were a strange one, they were never really bankrolled in the sense of a $hitehawk, Histon or FGR. Fat Jeff bought them in the early 90s and installed himself as manager, to be fair he did a decent job, took them from regional leagues to the Conference in 12 years, the early promotions with little input from his wealth. When they 'went for it' instead of just buying up anyone they could they set about getting older players from the area who'd been established football league players (Jeff Minton, Steve Tilson) and taking on released younger players from clubs like West Ham. It went wrong for them because he was unwilling to pump in money when it was clear their attendances would not improve even when they were fighting for the playoff places in the Conference, so he left for Chelmsford and Canvey took voluntary relegation back to the Isthmian leagues.

Grays had a similar theme to Canvey in that when they 'went for it' they decided to take on youngsters, mainly released from local clubs. Mick Woodward was the money behind them, but interestingly I think they could have made a go of it. When he took over they had gates of 300, in the season they made the Conference playoffs they averaged 1500. He said at the time that the gate revenue, club house revenue and sponsorship meant they were making money as they weren't paying out silly wages. Their oldest player was 31.
Their problem started when Stimson (the then manager) got way ahead of himself with his ego and their team was so good they lost the majority of their players to league teams. They couldn't replicate the success and ended up back where they started, Woodward took over as manager at one point as well and since they've had massive ground problems, kicked out and are still homeless I think.

Tamplin at Billericay is most like Hornchurch, who when they went bust had spent £1M in a year on wages. I don't know what's in the water in South Essex but I can see the reasoning as to why these rich locals take on the clubs. There is a big population of football supporters in South Essex but trying to get them to games rather than watching West Ham, Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea on TV is the issue. Southend have been trying, unsuccessfully, for years and have to battle things like having a Tottenham club shop on the high street.
I don't wish Tamplin any luck though, the comments and statements he comes out with are just ridiculous and his unsustainable pumping in of money will harm what was a decent non-league setup.
 
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Canvey were a strange one, they were never really bankrolled in the sense of a $hitehawk, Histon or FGR. Fat Jeff bought them in the early 90s and installed himself as manager, to be fair he did a decent job, took them from regional leagues to the Conference in 12 years, the early promotions with little input from his wealth. When they 'went for it' instead of just buying up anyone they could they set about getting older players from the area who'd been established football league players (Jeff Minton, Steve Tilson) and taking on released younger players from clubs like West Ham. It went wrong for them because he was unwilling to pump in money when it was clear their attendances would not improve even when they were fighting for the playoff places in the Conference, so he left for Chelmsford and Canvey took voluntary relegation back to the Isthmian leagues.

Grays had a similar theme to Canvey in that when they 'went for it' they decided to take on youngsters, mainly released from local clubs. Mick Woodward was the money behind them, but interestingly I think they could have made a go of it. When he took over they had gates of 300, in the season they made the Conference playoffs they averaged 1500. He said at the time that the gate revenue, club house revenue and sponsorship meant they were making money as they weren't paying out silly wages. Their oldest player was 31.
Their problem started when Stimson (the then manager) got way ahead of himself with his ego and their team was so good they lost the majority of their players to league teams. They couldn't replicate the success and ended up back where they started, Woodward took over as manager at one point as well and since they've had massive ground problems, kicked out and are still homeless I think.

Tamplin at Billericay is most like Hornchurch, who when they went bust had spent £1M in a year on wages. I don't know what's in the water in South Essex but I can see the reasoning as to why these rich locals take on the clubs. There is a big population of football supporters in South Essex but trying to get them to games rather than watching West Ham, Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea on TV is the issue. Southend have been trying, unsuccessfully, for years and have to battle things like having a Tottenham club shop on the high street.
I don't wish Tamplin any luck though, the comments and statements he comes out with are just ridiculous and his unsustainable pumping in of money with harm what was a decent non-league setup.

I remember Dmitri Kharine signing for Hornchurch, I think not long after he was at Chelsea - it was on Football Focus. That one went wrong pretty quickly though.
Maybe they look at clubs in and around that area thinking "well London is massive, so there's room for another club", but can't see a lot of sense in it myself.
 

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I remember Dmitri Kharine signing for Hornchurch, I think not long after he was at Chelsea - it was on Football Focus. That one went wrong pretty quickly though.
Maybe they look at clubs in and around that area thinking "well London is massive, so there's room for another club", but can't see a lot of sense in it myself.

I can see the sense of it if the culture of the football fans were to change in the area. Sadly most people from Upminster through to Southend would rather watch West Ham/Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea/Man Utd/Liverpool on TV than pop down to the myriad of local non-league clubs in the area to see some actual live football, which if they gave it a chance they would realise is a pretty good standard.

When Southend get to a playoff final or JPT/LDV final, or whatever they're calling it now, you see them come out in droves for a day at the Millennium stadium/Wembley, I mean last playoff final we had 33,000 there, of which about 8,000 were actual Southend supporters. Sadly it won't change anytime soon, the only way any of us, from Southend Manor to Southend United are likely to see attendances on which a club can make money is by getting to the top division and even then most of them in the homes ends will be there to watch West Ham or Tottenham rather than the home team.
 

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Whitehawk have now lost Sergio Torres to Eastbourne.

As for us..... :tw:
 

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Whitehawk assistant Jimmy Dack has been promoted to first team manager for the 2017/18 season.
 

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I wonder how long it will be before Dack quits to become an assistant manager somewhere else?
 

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