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I know there aren't many clubs in this division nowadays that haven't been in the Prem and haven't had the cash to spend big but we're just about (supposedly) to absolutely shatter our record fee paid and wondered what the comparison is?
Our current record is £2.1M but we're supposedly absolutely smashing that to £5.25M and that's a HUGE fee for us.
How does that compare with clubs when they were OUTSIDE the Premier league?
I am genuinely blown away that little Bristol City can do this, really gobsmacked! Maybe the corporate stuff in the new place / bigger crowds has increased our turnover to the extent that we can now do this sort of thing, I genuinely have no idea?
 

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As a Villa fan, not many would argue that we are the biggest club in the championship alongside Forrest. I was surprised that we spent £70mil last year as a championship side although it seems hard to attract players from the prem

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We spent 13m on Helda Costa, and could possibly break that figure this season, although I doubt we will.
 

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I know there aren't many clubs in this division nowadays that haven't been in the Prem and haven't had the cash to spend big but we're just about (supposedly) to absolutely shatter our record fee paid and wondered what the comparison is?
Our current record is £2.1M but we're supposedly absolutely smashing that to £5.25M and that's a HUGE fee for us.
How does that compare with clubs when they were OUTSIDE the Premier league?
I am genuinely blown away that little Bristol City can do this, really gobsmacked! Maybe the corporate stuff in the new place / bigger crowds has increased our turnover to the extent that we can now do this sort of thing, I genuinely have no idea?

Maynard was £2.25m and we supposedly broke that last summer, its supposed to be up around the £3m mark now.
 

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Maynard was £2.25m and we supposedly broke that last summer, its supposed to be up around the £3m mark now.
I though it was Kodjia at £2.1M, not that it really matters fella. I'm sure you're correct. :hypo:
 

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£1.5million for Mike Sheron from QPR in 1999 is our record. Scored 40 goals in 172 appearances so he's regarded as a legend down Oakwell.
 

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I know there aren't many clubs in this division nowadays that haven't been in the Prem and haven't had the cash to spend big but we're just about (supposedly) to absolutely shatter our record fee paid and wondered what the comparison is?
Our current record is £2.1M but we're supposedly absolutely smashing that to £5.25M and that's a HUGE fee for us.
How does that compare with clubs when they were OUTSIDE the Premier league?
I am genuinely blown away that little Bristol City can do this, really gobsmacked! Maybe the corporate stuff in the new place / bigger crowds has increased our turnover to the extent that we can now do this sort of thing, I genuinely have no idea?
We're not that little ffs, we're a big city club that are well supported nowadays. Average size in this division, we've been shit for the majority of our history it's surprising our crowds are what they are.

Our record fee was £3.25m before now it seems we're about to smash it; not sure I'm happy about it mind, we're spending £5m+ on a foreign gamble when Preston can sign Barkhuizen, Robinson, Maxwell, Cunningham, Pearson and Hugill for less than £1m combined.

We'll see how it goes mate.
 

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Lololol, alongside Burton we must be the only side here to never spend a million on a player. Our record is the now 28 year old signing of Paul Goddard from Derby for £800k, and he was totally fucking useless.
 

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I suppose it comes down to what you get for your money. The Championship is a notoriously difficult division to get out of and it requires a certain sort of player.

Whatever Robins are willing to pay, they should be looking, more than any other attribute, for players who are experienced and have a proven record in this division. Some may call these "journeymen" players, but there's nothing wrong with that if the individual(s) concerned comes to the club with a clear picture of what is required of him and he's confident that he can (and wants to) deliver.

If City's ambition is to make it to the Premier League, they should be mindful that they will need to keep something in the piggy bank for when the glorious day comes. The players that get you there may not be the ones that would be able to keep you there and further activity in the transfer market would be inevitable. It would be unwise to spend money up front on the promise of Premier League riches, so keeping something back would be wise.

Having said that, the old saying of "Speculate to accumulate" is never far away from owners minds when they get carried away with promotion. A steady hand and a "softly, softly, catchee monkey" might be better.

We wouldn't want it to all end in tears, would we.
 

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Lololol, alongside Burton we must be the only side here to never spend a million on a player. Our record is the now 28 year old signing of Paul Goddard from Derby for £800k, and he was totally fucking useless.

Millwall's best players have always been the ones they produced themselves. Derek Possee, Keith Weller, Alex Stepney, Tony Cascarino, Teddy Sheringham. All Millwall in their early days but moved on to better things.

Perhaps that's one of the reason's they have next-door-to-no history of top flight football. The club can't attract good players and they have to sell the ones they produce.

Thoughts on that one, Etienne..?
 

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If City's ambition is to make it to the Premier League,
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Millwall's best players have always been the ones they produced themselves. Derek Possee, Keith Weller, Alex Stepney, Tony Cascarino, Teddy Sheringham. All Millwall in their early days but moved on to better things.

Perhaps that's one of the reason's they have next-door-to-no history of top flight football. The club can't attract good players and they have to sell the ones they produce.

Thoughts on that one, Etienne..?
Was Keith Weller schooled at Millwall? I never knew that and assumed he was a Leicester boy as that's where I remember him playing.
 

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Our record is £1.7m for Bjelland a couple of years ago, though add ons for Rico Henry or Sergi Canos will likely beat that over time (both on £1.5m, Canos can rise to £2.5m, Henry can rise to £5m, but some of the clauses there are ridiculous)

I'm surprised you are surprised that you are about to beat your transfer record, haven't you been bidding £6-8m on strikers the past couple of years and complaining when they haven't come off? (Gray, Gayle, for example) Seems its more expected from your fan base that it needed to be broken.
 

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We dropped around £2.5m on Canos in January which is our current record. Since we've come up we spent around £2.1m on Bjelland, £1m on Vibe and I think Hofmann was just shy of that. Hofmann we moved on at a loss, whereas Bjelland did his ACL in his first game, missed the whole season and seemed to have lost a yard of pace when he returned.

It's our transfer fee received that we keep on smashing. We look set to receive ~£24m for Gray, Hogan and Tarkowski combined, with add-ons and sell-ons involved in the first two. Spent £1.5m bringing the trio in.

Given how little non-transfer revenue we bring in, our transfer budget this season is a bit of a mystery, so unless we lose Jota and/or Dean then I can't see us breaking our transfer record in the next 12 months.
 

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I'm surprised you are surprised that you are about to beat your transfer record, haven't you been bidding £6-8m on strikers the past couple of years and complaining when they haven't come off? (Gray, Gayle, for example) Seems its more expected from your fan base that it needed to be broken.
The consensus was that we made the large bids for Gayle, Gray etc but offered wages nowhere near the expected levels for a fee of that size. Those bids were accepted AFAIK but the deals were never going to be completed. At least Andre Gray came to Bristol to talk, Gayle didn't even bother! :(
As a club, we're in a far stronger position than we were then but it's still a shock to hear of my club spending 'big' by our standards.
whoever runs the recruitment at Brentford is doing one hell of a job BTW, absolutely superb.
 

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We dropped around £2.5m on Canos in January which is our current record. Since we've come up we spent around £2.1m on Bjelland, £1m on Vibe and I think Hofmann was just shy of that. Hofmann we moved on at a loss, whereas Bjelland did his ACL in his first game, missed the whole season and seemed to have lost a yard of pace when he returned.

It's our transfer fee received that we keep on smashing. We look set to receive ~£24m for Gray, Hogan and Tarkowski combined, with add-ons and sell-ons involved in the first two. Spent £1.5m bringing the trio in.

Given how little non-transfer revenue we bring in, our transfer budget this season is a bit of a mystery, so unless we lose Jota and/or Dean then I can't see us breaking our transfer record in the next 12 months.
Always thought Bjelland was €2.1m, which was £1.7m at the time?

We also spent about £1m on Woods and Odubajo, maybe even Jota I think, but that's it as far as I can remember for fees of £1m+

We also made profits on Forshaw, Button, Bidwell and Odubajo in the last couple of years, brings the total about £30m for incomings, on a spend of around £4m.
 

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Was Keith Weller schooled at Millwall? I never knew that and assumed he was a Leicester boy as that's where I remember him playing.
Yeah he was one of ours, sold him on as we do.

We produce and we sell, it's how we've always been - until recently. Haven't brought many good products through since the 2000/01 team.
 

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Yeah he was one of ours, sold him on as we do.

We produce and we sell, it's how we've always been - until recently. Haven't brought many good products through since the 2000/01 team.
Fair play, I really didn't know that. Showing my age I guess. I remember the outcry when he played for Leicester wearing tights! That was a very long time ago.
 

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Always thought Bjelland was €2.1m, which was £1.7m at the time?

We also spent about £1m on Woods and Odubajo, maybe even Jota I think, but that's it as far as I can remember for fees of £1m+

We also made profits on Forshaw, Button, Bidwell and Odubajo in the last couple of years, brings the total about £30m for incomings, on a spend of around £4m.

I seem to recall it being just shy of €3m, which was around £2.1m at the time http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33363255

Yeah, I think Jota was €1.5m, which would have been just north of £1m, so there are a few in that £1m ball park in the space of 12 months/two summer windows. Most have paid off, Bjelland and Hofmann haven't quite been value for money. The accounting technique of spreading the cost of the transfer over the duration of the contract has certainly worked in our favour, as we tend to sign mostly young players on 3-5 years deals. A £1m transfer on a 4 years contract is £250k per year before other costs, so we're able to make the most of our budget.
 

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Ours is 4million for James beattie we won't be be beating that anytime soon.
 

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Our record fee is on Tiago Ilori from January this year. No idea how much it was but has always been reported as a record transfer, which had previously been Emerse Fae for £2.5m in 2007 when we were in the Prem. At a guess it was probably around £3m (reports from Liverpool were saying £3.75m, but apparently that's only if add-ons are met).

I think we will make one big transfer this Summer, which could get close to whatever our record fee is. Given that we need 2 strikers and strikers cost ridiculous money now.
 

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Championship transfer fees are even more ridiculous than PL transfer fees nowadays.

Indeed. I remember the days when we could sign Rickie Lambert and Billy Sharp for a combined £3m. (Admittedly, Lambert was massive money for League One at the time, but he went on to play for England.....)

Now, I'm just glad that we managed to get out of the Championship when we did, as it's much too difficult to compete these days.
 

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Was Keith Weller schooled at Millwall? I never knew that and assumed he was a Leicester boy as that's where I remember him playing.


Millwall sold Keith Weller to Chelsea in 1970 for £100'000, which was a significant fee at that time.... certainly the sort of money Millwall couldn't afford to sneeze at. He won a European Cup Winners Cup medal with Chelsea (they beat Real Madrid in a replayed final in Athens) before they sold him on to Leicester City a year later, also for £100'000.
 

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Millwall's best players have always been the ones they produced themselves. Derek Possee, Keith Weller, Alex Stepney, Tony Cascarino, Teddy Sheringham. All Millwall in their early days but moved on to better things.

Perhaps that's one of the reason's they have next-door-to-no history of top flight football. The club can't attract good players and they have to sell the ones they produce.

Thoughts on that one, Etienne..?
Weller started at Spurs
 

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As a Villa fan, not many would argue that we are the biggest club in the championship alongside Forrest. I was surprised that we spent £70mil last year as a championship side although it seems hard to attract players from the prem

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Ours is Liam Boyce at an undisclosed fee but will be over 500k as that was the release fee. Some say it's as much as 750k plus two crates of irn bru.
Pathetic compared to others but a lot for us.
 

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