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About the kick-off times in the Buli Zwei, I don't particularly mind attending games at this time of day. Remember taking a train dead early (probably 4am) from Munich to go to a Sechzig away game at Union Berlin. Was a great day out. Playing in the middle of the day enables you to get there early, go to the game, have a wander around (alright drinking) and have a snooze on the train back.

Can't believe you lost 0-5 at home though. You didn't get that pillaged even in the top division! There's always the next game though. Englische Woche this week so try not to get ramschalked (that's right I invent verbs!) at Fürth (who are actually having a decent start) tomorrow evening.

Let's talk about the Buli now. Currently watching a horrible Schalke side losing 0-1 at Freiburg. They weren't that bad against Bayern considering the opposition but lose this one and it's 5 losses in as many games. Many they'll do a Hamburg...
 

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And it is 5 defeats from their opening 5 games for Schalke. Tedesco on borrowed time?

Haven't watched them seriously enough but the strikers seem terrorized to go towards the ball. Squad lacks personality imo.
 

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About the kick-off times in the Buli Zwei, I don't particularly mind attending games at this time of day. Remember taking a train dead early (probably 4am) from Munich to go to a Sechzig away game at Union Berlin. Was a great day out. Playing in the middle of the day enables you to get there early, go to the game, have a wander around (alright drinking) and have a snooze on the train back.
I don't like it that they play 1:30 pm on Sundays (and playing on Mondays neither) but "wat mutt, dat mutt" as we say here in the North.

Let's talk about the Buli now. Currently watching a horrible Schalke side losing 0-1 at Freiburg. They weren't that bad against Bayern considering the opposition but lose this one and it's 5 losses in as many games. Many they'll do a Hamburg...
Gladbach had a similar worse start with 5 losses in 2015 and Lucien Favre pissed off, then they hired Andre Schubert and won the next 6 :D (and even reached the Champions League). And the next season they sacked Schubert too.
Don't know what it is actually at Schalke. They need a win urgently no matter how dirty or cheesy to build confidence.

Sorry thought they had one ..
They have....in the Champions League ;)

btw: Nice to see that Bayern can't win them all. Only 1-1 at home during the "Wiesn" (Oktoberfest) against Augsburg.
 

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same awful start to the league as we had 2016 ( 5 losses) and 2010.

we had always great cup campaigns when we started that worse in the league. 2011 Cup winner and cl-semi-final. and 2017 europa league QF where we went anlukcy out vs Ajax after extra time due to some abysmal decisions by the ref.
 

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Ja, wunderbar, that Bayern lost 0-2 in Berlin.
Not the best week for the Bazis with only 1 out of 6 points and so they lost their lead at the Bundesliga (only temporarily of course. We all know that they're back there asap. it's inevitable).

Anyway for the moment Dortmund got the lead with a just reached 4-2 away win at Leverkusen. Together with the 7-0 against Nürnberg in Midweek they got impressive 11 Goals and 6 points from this week).

Werder has a really good team actually (hope none of my HSV mates are reading here ;) )
although they lost 1-2 in Stuttgart (with a slapstick goal from Stuttgart Goalie Ron Robert Ziegler) but this was premium football. Very entertaining match (and I like the end-result ).

Schalke with the first win of the season after 5 losses in a row.

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2nd Buli: Tomorrow is one of the rare days that we meet St.Pauli in a league match. In Hamburg it's of course the main topic for weeks now. Sell out crowd at the Volkspark, 57.000 expected.

I have to go to bed early today that I don't come at the last moment again to the Volkspark (like last week against Regensburg). 1:30pm (12:30pm UK) kickoff again. Fucking hate this.

If we lose this I won't be here for a few days!
 
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If we lose this I won't be here for a few days!
I doubt a couple of mocking comments on a football message board will be as hard to take as the glee St Pauli fans will have about beating you on your own patch (if indeed St Pauli take the game today).
Is there any trouble in those games? St Pauli pride themselves on being the coolest club in the history of the world so doubt it but it's a derby and the sides barely ever play each other. Last time these two squared up in the league, St Pauli won at Hamburg 1-0, just sayin'...
 

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I doubt a couple of mocking comments on a football message board will be as hard to take as the glee St Pauli fans will have about beating you on your own patch (if indeed St Pauli take the game today).
yes, was only a joke ;)

Is there any trouble in those games? St Pauli pride themselves on being the coolest club in the history of the world so doubt it but it's a derby and the sides barely ever play each other. Last time these two squared up in the league, St Pauli won at Hamburg 1-0, just sayin'...
yes, a little bit. I personally don't have anything against St.Pauli or their fans (mentioned it) but some of the HSV Ultras don't see it like me (and vice versa some of the St.Pauli Fraction neither). As long as it's only a bit of banter it's okay but I hope it doesn't escalate in violence


btw: here's a yt video before the last Derby in 2010 about the "Derby-Marsch" to the stadium


and, actually, some HSV Ultras during a training session. The "Capo" (don't know the englisch word for "Einpeitscher") even spoke to some team members A bit "martially" when he tells them that they're "wearing the HSV rhombus deep in their hearts and would be dying for the club" but hey they're "hot" about this game (at the end of the video they "chant" "Scheiß, St.Pauli"" ;)



2 hours to go.....

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edit: Back at home: Atmosphere was great, the match, unfortunately, not. Only 0-0 (again) and now the third match in a row without a goal. Anyway, next match already on Friday at Darmstadt!
 
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Watched the Hamburg St Pauli match and it was a drab affair, but with so many derby games failing to live up to expectations, it was only to be expected I guess. Both teams were more concerned with not losing to their rivals so entertainment was in short supply :(

Having said that, and to be completely honest,I did expect something more from Hamburg. I mean they are the stronger side and were playing at home so I expected to see more attacking intent on their part.
 

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Watched the Hamburg St Pauli match and it was a drab affair, but with so many derby games failing to live up to expectations, it was only to be expected I guess. Both teams were more concerned with not losing to their rivals so entertainment was in short supply :(
yes, as mentioned. The atmosphere in the stands was great but the match was dull.

I bet we would've seen a better match when it was played the sunday before (instead of the unreal 0-5 loss against Regensburg). This loss totally rattled the team. You could see it in the midweek 0-0 at Fürth and now against Pauli. We were in a very good flow before this but this team is young (the youngest in the BuLi2) and this happens. Now we must see that we don't lose contact to Köln (although I don't mind if we end up 1st or 2nd (even 3rd when promotion is guaranteed after the playoff matches ;) )
 

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Dortmund is on fire and Paco Alcacer the loan striker from Barcelona actually the hottest one.

6 Goals in his first 3 Bundesliga-Matches that has happened only once before in the Bundesliga. In 1963 when HSV Striker Gert "Charly" Dörfel did the same.
But Alcacer hasn't yet played a full match, 3-times substituted between the 60th and 70th minute. So, not even 90minutes at all.

Dortmund scored 18 Goals in the last 4 matches (7-0, 4-2, 4-3 in the BuLi and 3-0 in the Champions League against Monaco)

And Bayern?
Lost their 2nd BuLi match in a row, now even at home with 3-0 against Gladbach. Combined with the 1-1 draws against Augsburg and Ajax in the CL , they are now winless in 4 matches.

Stuttgart sacked Coach Korkut. The usual thing. He saved them last season and they made it nearly to the Europa League places but this season they are mostly clueless (except last weekends win against Bremen)
 
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Stuttgart sacked Coach Korkut. The usual thing. He saved them last season and they made it nearly to the Europa League places but this season they are mostly clueless (except last weekends win against Bremen)
Not sure how I feel about this. Yes, they're bottom but the squad is shite. So he's partly to blame for not addressing the problems in the summer.

Yep, Paco Alcacer is the leading goalscorer in the Buli despite having never started a game and not even completed 90 minutes coming off the bench which a goal every...13 and a half minutes! That's right!
 

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Not sure how I feel about this. Yes, they're bottom but the squad is shite. So he's partly to blame for not addressing the problems in the summer.
And this guy, Michael Reschke, the sporting director, is a lying twat. Just after the match on Saturday evening he told the press that they have faith in the coach and only hours later he sacked him on Sunday morning. And then he has even the nerve to say that he only told a "fib".
I know that these "we have faith" remarks are nowadays worthless in professional football and although Korkut is one of those "one season wonders" this is a shite behaviour from the sporting director.

re "one season wonders": My "2nd love" Eintracht Braunschweig, actually bottom of 3.Liga (makes my heart bleeding) has sacked coach Petersen and replaced him with another one of those "one season wonder" coaches, Andre Schubert, former St.Pauli and especially Gladbach coach. This is a good move and I really like this guy. Good to see him back .

and, not to forget: Torsten Lieberknecht, former Eintracht Braunschweig coach for many years and sacked after the relegation to 3.Liga (and replaced by the now sacked coach Petersen) has another job too at 2.Bundesliga bottom placed MSV Duisburg (nicknamed: Zebras). They were winless and right in his first match they won away at Köln. That's football :D
 
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Thank god, league football at the weekend after this shitty international break. At least here I can see my team winning :D

HSV again on Sunday and again at this (for me) early kickoff time. Brings my whole sunday routine in turmoil these sunday Buli2 kick off times. Hopefully I have to endure it only one season. Playing against Bochum who once, like the HSV, had the "attribute" of "UNABSTEIGBAR" (maybe best translated as "unrelegatable" although I don#t know if this word even exists in english) until they were relegated for the first time and then became more of an "up and down" team and now are more established in the Buli 2 (a warning example for HSV)

in the Buli1 we have interested matches, too. Bayern away at Wolfsburg. I am sure they'll win this one after their (mini) crisis. Dortmund away at Stuttgart (with new coach Markus Weinzierl) and Schalke against Werder Bremen (actually on very good form, unfortunately)
 

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