D - Road definitely not rivals non derby (Crewe vs Vale)

[valefan16]

That Crewe fan on P&G though!

We’ve beaten the teams that were top 2 away in successive games so hopefully have finally sorted the away issues out, we’d played well in a few and threw away injury time equalisers.

Unbeaten at home but drawing to some really poor sides lately who’ve come and parked the bus and tried to counter so we need to work that out and we won’t be far off where we want to be.

Next few games are crucial, got a struggling Carlisle, go to Scunny, host Walsall who are dropping like a stone and then go to Crawley where we have an even better win record than Gresty Road, if we can chalk up a good few points from those then we will see where we are, oddly we’ve had a decent run of fixtures yet won two of the hardest ones on paper!

Most would take a solid finish to set foundations for a real go next season but the league is poor enough we might as well at least have ago at the play offs even if we fall short and would be a bonus.

I think Crewe under estimated us to be honest, lots of it’ll be 3-0 etc on the radio before and some of our fans were guilty of that but we have played 17 of the 23 now and only 4 of them have beaten us... id have snapped your hand off for that in August.

Legge and Smith excellent, talk about Crewe’s kids as good as they are but Smith has been excellent, Joyce was decent and Monty did alright until his usual injury.

The crucial thing for any hopes we may have is to get Phil Sproson to sort out getting Forest to let us keep Jake Taylor, think he’s joint top scorer now!

 

[leedsvaliant]

Yeah, there's always one on the radio. Our cup final? Don't be silly. He said Crewe have only lost 4 all season, which shows how good they are but ommited the fact that Vale have also only lost 4. He also confidently predicted that they wouldn't see us again for 3 years in spite of the fact that we haven't played them at Vale Park yet. What a knob.

We just wanted it more on the day, it could have been Crewe or Exeter. These days happen and I'm sure Crewe will beat Northampton next league game.

 

[darren gregory]

It's not a coincidence we've beaten the likes of Crewe, FGR, Plymouth.
Teams who all want to play.

The likes of Stevenage and Oldham who show no ambition can suss us out and we don't have the ability to break them down.

 

[Valeite]

If I was a scout for bigger teams, these are the games I would judge the young players from Crewe and that performance would again tell me that they are bottlers. Well done Vale, steady progress has been made and lets just hope we can continue to improve.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Dropped a bollock yesterday and got what we deserved which was sweet FA. I thought it was a hideously poor game of football. Probably our worst performance of the season and Vale took one of the two good chances they had and we didn't take our only good chance of the game.

Vale's goal once again comes from us dicking about with it at the back, shit negative sideways and backwards passing against an opponent who wants to press high is a recipe for disaster. If we want to play it out from the back that's fine just don't do it in a big game. Because of that, Vale got a corner which we defended atrociously and they took the opportunity. Up until that point I thought it'd be a drab 0-0 because both sides looked devoid of any creativity at all.

Agreed with the team selection so I won't blame Artell for this one at all. Too many individuals had a shocker. Fullbacks (especially Pickering) were absolutely awful, Lowery had an off day, Hunt wasn't great, Green's passing left a lot to be desired and the wide men and Porter were feeding off scraps all day. Kirk tried but no end product and I thought Wintle and Nolan were the only two to come out with any credit yesterday, although Jaaskelainen made up for his error with a fine save in the second half.

It's just one game of a 46 game marathon though, we'll drop some games on the way but not all games will be cagey and full of pressure. A week off from the league and a few changes next week for Accrington will do. I like Porter but Artell needs to give him a rest next week and give Chuma an opportunity to show what he can do. Pickering could do with a rest too, he's absolutely jaded and put in some poor performances over the last month, I'd like to ease Adebisi into the team so it's a great opportunity for him to play next week too.

Incidentally, that's the first time since opening day where we've gone 1-0 down at home and I've thought "We're not gonna get back into this". I'm never concerned if we concede first because we usually have the fight to respond to setbacks. But you couldn't see that yesterday...

 

[mozzavale]

Vale took one of the two good chances they had...

The highlights suggest we had at least 4 huge chances. They don't show the one off the line in the first half either. Worrall should hit the target at least, Pope was unlucky, Amoo's was harder miss.

Based on chances, 1 - 0 flattered Crewe.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

The highlights suggest we had at least 4 huge chances. They don't show the one off the line in the first half either. Worrall should hit the target at least, Pope was unlucky, Amoo's was harder miss.

Based on chances, 1 - 0 flattered Crewe.

Didn't see that one off the line during the game in my defence (was downstairs in the Main Stand) so I stand corrected. I disregarded Amoo's chance because he never looked like scoring that despite our awful defending. Made a right hash of the shot. No complaints though we deserved to lose for having too many players putting in Weston Supers.

 

[valefan16]

Didn't see that one off the line during the game in my defence (was downstairs in the Main Stand) so I stand corrected. I disregarded Amoo's chance because he never looked like scoring that despite our awful defending. Made a right hash of the shot. No complaints though we deserved to lose for having too many players putting in Weston Supers.

We had a few good chances but on the flip side both keepers had to make a great save but nothing more, Amoo should score but got to much on it and we’ve both hit the woodwork.

I thought it was an alright game, some errors but some decent football at times and not to much long ball until the end when Nicky Hunt just kept booting it into the box, although like Pope with us Crewe when the sent Anene on got drawn at times into trying to hit him.

 

[F!RTHY]

Are Vale fans still chirping on about the smash and grab at Valley Parade? Barring the first 35 mins, you were completely out of the game - with about 10 players of ours out injured, 4 of which being key players.

 

[valefan16]

Are Vale fans still chirping on about the smash and grab at Valley Parade? Barring the first 35 mins, you were completely out of the game - with about 10 players of ours out injured, 4 of which being key players.

Should of been over within the 35 minutes though and without a laughable pen you wouldn’t have even scored.

As for the injuries, had about 7 out at one point, still beat Plymouth and drew with Mansfield, missed 3 key players at Valley Parade ourselves (Manny, Conlon and Crookes would have started if available).

as for being out the game... we purposely sat deep and let you come onto us... as we did yesterday

 

[F!RTHY]

Should of been over within the 35 minutes though and without a laughable pen you wouldn’t have even scored.

As for the injuries, had about 7 out at one point, still beat Plymouth and drew with Mansfield, missed 3 key players at Valley Parade ourselves (Manny, Conlon and Crookes would have started if available).

as for being out the game... we purposely sat deep and let you come onto us... as we did yesterday

Will a full strength side, or just including Pritchard and Connolly, and we would have rolled you to one side with relative ease - as we’re showing against most sides, most weekends.

 

[Buxton Vale]

Will a full strength side, or just including Pritchard and Connolly, and we would have rolled you to one side with relative ease - as we’re showing against most sides, most weekends.

maybe you aren't as good as you think you are?

 

[valefan16]

Will a full strength side, or just including Pritchard and Connolly, and we would have rolled you to one side with relative ease - as we’re showing against most sides, most weekends.

Yeah that’s what Crewe fans thought and probably FGR fans before we turned them over too.

This is not the Port Vale of the last three years.

 

[darren gregory]

Will a full strength side, or just including Pritchard and Connolly, and we would have rolled you to one side with relative ease - as we’re showing against most sides, most weekends.

Well the other 23 might as well not bother.
Title race over , well done.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Funny that, because Bradford were terrible defensively and we outplayed them at Gresty Road earlier in the season. Got a great manager and team but there's no way they'll piss this league with Kelvin Mellor at the back.

 

[F!RTHY]

Here they come......

 

[The Alex]

Christ, and I thought we were the ones who thought we were world beaters? Judging off social media you’d have thought Vale had just won the Champions League and all.

The goal was a terrible one to concede, a slow floated header that Jaaskelainen doesn’t deal with and should and then leaves his goal open, after that you could have put 2 more in easily but you didn’t and we were chasing the game. Like I said I fancied us second half but we give away a daft corner and you score of it. A game of little quality and few chances.

 

[The Alex]

We’ve unearthed a few problem over the last few weeks we need to correct, I’m confident Artell will.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

I genuinely think we're fine. Just like the last automatically promoted side we had, the away form is excellent and the home form isn't as good because teams are rocking up here and sitting deep. You can't break down teams like that every week and Colchester and Vale were very well organised as opposed to Swindon who were woeful. The problem is we've not played an away game since the 12th October and we've had three successive home games where we were great (Swindon) stifled (Colchester) and extremely poor (Vale). I expect a far more open couple of games now against Accrington and Northampton away and I think we'll see improved performances.

Fixture list has been very very unkind to us first three months of the season on paper. August was a grueller playing three relegated sides at home, early form teams in Crawley and Newport too. Oldham was the only poor side we played until we had Orient and Salford in back to back games in September. September we played form teams in Grimsby, Cambridge (best away record in the league at the time) and Cheltenham. October we played Exeter, Swindon, Colchester and we were supposed to play FGR who were also up there with Carlisle being the only banker. And now November we've had in-form Vale, we're due in-form Northampton and top of the league FGR was rearranged. Our only banker on paper is Morecambe who recently got a win and knowing our luck will get one on the 16th November too. But to get 30 points so far is a fantastic effort and our December fixtures look very very kind on paper at the moment (watch every single side pick up form before we play them now) so I'm praying for no postponements. That's the month that will make or break our season.

Our attack is also very one-dimensional without Daniel Powell I've noticed. We play a lot better with him in the side even if his goal total is low. I'd like to see Chuma Anene given more game time though so we can add more unpredictability into the attack than Kirk and Dale/Ainley trying to cross the ball to Porter or cut back and pass to Wintle or Lowery.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Funny that, because Bradford were terrible defensively and we outplayed them at Gresty Road earlier in the season. Got a great manager and team but there's no way they'll piss this league with Kelvin Mellor at the back.

He is shit you’re right, he cost us the game against Port Vale imo and got dropped as a result against Exeter. No coincidence we kept them to one shot on target and kept our first clean sheet in two months as a result. We were garbage full stop against you, but it was a new team playing 3 at the back and still only lost by one. Our next meeting will be interesting we’ve improved dramatically since then and look like a team at last.

As for Port Vale I have no bad feelings that they beat us, we were poor first half and should have been 2 down as it was never a penalty. Second half they were dreadful though game plan or not, they came out of their half to score after we gifted it to them on half way. I’m sure they’ll be top half but if Pritchard played as Firthy says I’d be confident of that being a different result such is his influence.

 

[valefan16]

Christ, and I thought we were the ones who thought we were world beaters? Judging off social media you’d have thought Vale had just won the Champions League and all.

The goal was a terrible one to concede, a slow floated header that Jaaskelainen doesn’t deal with and should and then leaves his goal open, after that you could have put 2 more in easily but you didn’t and we were chasing the game. Like I said I fancied us second half but we give away a daft corner and you score of it. A game of little quality and few chances.

We’re not world beaters nor think it by any stretch but massively improved and feeling good for the first time in four years at actually having a side with identity and that wins games and doesn’t lose many for once.

 

[kieran_vale]

Christ, and I thought we were the ones who thought we were world beaters? Judging off social media you’d have thought Vale had just won the Champions League and all.

The goal was a terrible one to concede, a slow floated header that Jaaskelainen doesn’t deal with and should and then leaves his goal open, after that you could have put 2 more in easily but you didn’t and we were chasing the game. Like I said I fancied us second half but we give away a daft corner and you score of it. A game of little quality and few chances.

I wouldn’t take what is said on social media too seriously. Am sure on both sides can always pick and choose what we see to suit a narrative.

I think from what’s happened this season when we come up against good passing teams we match up well with them just because of our general style of play. What we need to do is find a way to adjust to teams who don’t play in that manner.

Overall I think Crewe regardless of yesterday’s result are at least a playoff team and that hasn’t changed. For us I think we can be top half and would be more than pleased with that as would finally have put a halt to the constant losing culture we’ve had for about 3 years now. Be nice if we can find a way to put together back to back league wins now as that has been something we’ve yet to achieve.

 

[valefan16]

I wouldn’t take what is said on social media too seriously. Am sure on both sides can always pick and choose what we see to suit a narrative.

I think from what’s happened this season when we come up against good passing teams we match up well with them just because of our general style of play. What we need to do is find a way to adjust to teams who don’t play in that manner.

Overall I think Crewe regardless of yesterday’s result are at least a playoff team and that hasn’t changed. For us I think we can be top half and would be more than pleased with that as would finally have put a halt to the constant losing culture we’ve had for about 3 years now. Be nice if we can find a way to put together back to back league wins now as that has been something we’ve yet to achieve.

Only six points off top as it stands and two from the playoffs so if we can keep the hope alive as long as possible rather than have the season over by January/Feb that would be nice and get the fans buzzing for a real go next season.

Four huge games in the league coming up, all winnable against sides 19th, 21st, 22nd and 17th currently, if we can sort playing the lower sides out and have a good return then would be nice to go into Xmas in the top seven.

Pleasing thing this season is we’ve got this far without our best player on paper in Oyeleke.

 

[kieran_vale]

Only six points off top as it stands and two from the playoffs so if we can keep the hope alive as long as possible rather than have the season over by January/Feb that would be nice and get the fans buzzing for a real go next season.

Four huge games in the league coming up, all winnable against sides 19th, 21st, 22nd and 17th currently, if we can sort playing the lower sides out and have a good return then would be nice to go into Xmas in the top seven.

Pleasing thing this season is we’ve got this far without our best player on paper in Oyeleke.

On paper sure they’re winnable but we said that with Macc and Stevenage to name but two. Means very little as don’t think there’s that much difference between the vast majority of teams in this division. So long as the players don’t just assume they only have to turn up which I suspect they did with Stevenage then maybe we can get the results we want but am very wary of games like those.

It does have the feel of Micky Adams first season in charge overall where we seem to have arrested the decline so great credit to the manager and team for that. Be helpful if we can extend Jake Taylor for the rest of the season also.

 

[valefan16]

On paper sure they’re winnable but we said that with Macc and Stevenage to name but two. Means very little as don’t think there’s that much difference between the vast majority of teams in this division. So long as the players don’t just assume they only have to turn up which I suspect they did with Stevenage then maybe we can get the results we want but am very wary of games like those.

It does have the feel of Micky Adams first season in charge overall where we seem to have arrested the decline so great credit to the manager and team for that. Be helpful if we can extend Jake Taylor for the rest of the season also.

Very much so, the next four will probably tell us if we can challenge at all or if mid table consolidation is it.

 

[darren gregory]

Turns out that the Stoke prick is from Kidsgrove, all over social media lapping it up

 

[kieran_vale]

Turns out that the Stoke prick is from Kidsgrove, all over social media lapping it up

Out of interest did the shit fan make it back into the home end? Am amazed he didn’t get a shoeing from either/both Vale and Crewe fans.

 

[The Alex]

It’s strange because I don’t think he realises that Stoke can get fucked too from a Crewe perspective.

 

[The Alex]

Out of interest did the shit fan make it back into the home end? Am amazed he didn’t get a shoeing from either/both Vale and Crewe fans.

Was eventually taken off the pitch and out of the ground by stewards. I think he’s got away with it with the police.

 

[valefan16]

Out of interest did the shit fan make it back into the home end? Am amazed he didn’t get a shoeing from either/both Vale and Crewe fans.

Not sure on the Crewe reactions to him, we were celebrating so ended just laughing at him mostly, Leggey apparently talked a fan out who was trying to get to him and Monty was the one gesturing to get the stewards to sort it to prevent him taking a pasting.

Paying the entrance fee and any punishment he may get just for that. Oddball.

I assume ideally he wanted Crewe to take the lead to come and taunt us... may well have then taken a beating!