Croatia Are The Rightful 2018 World Cup Champions

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We must consider these 3 points for proper evaluation.

1. first 2 French goals were questionable at best
2. Croatia outplayed France for most of the game and got unlucky (which often happens in low scoring sports)
3. In wealth and population adjusted rankings if Croatia would have won or lost by 1 goal or less they would've retained the #1 spot

further explanation:

Wealth and Population Adjusted Rankings After 2018 World Cup
1. Brazil
2. Croatia
3. Belgium
4. Peru
5. Uruguay
6. Portugal
7. France
8. Chile
9. Denmark
10. Montenegro
11. Serbia
12. Iceland

*Peru may seem overrated after poor World Cup performance, but 3 games is not enough for sufficient mathematical deduction
*due to close scores of Brazil, Croatia, and Belgium any of these teams could overcome each other on a day by day basis
 
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I think you should have a chat with Top Of The League about sports astrology.
There are no mysteries behind the data I provide, it may seem mysterious to you because you have not recognized the simple math and reasonable estimates. What you suggest is akin to saying that United States, China, Japan, Germany, Britain, India, and France are the best countries in the world because they have the biggest economies. Just like normal sports rankings and treating individual final scores as holy text, this is a gross error in judgement.

This isn't even in context, I'm not presenting any conspiracy theory.
 
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There are no mysteries behind the data I provide, it may seem mysterious to you because you have not recognized the simple math and reasonable estimates. What you suggest is akin to saying that United States, China, Japan, Germany, Britain, India, and France are the best countries in the world because they have the biggest economies. Just like normal sports rankings and treating individual final scores as holy text, this is a gross error in judgement
Hold up, I haven't suggested anything in my initial post. Let's clarify that first yeah?

You can't use the 'if this happened then this result would happen' argument as it's bullshit. If Maradona didn't perform the hand of god then maybe we would have won the World Cup. If, If, If.

Croatia were very impressive and outplayed France for most of the game.. but they lost 4-2. That is the key statistic here and the only one that matters, France 4-2 Croatia. As for the rest of your post I couldn't give a shit about population or wealth of each country when it comes to football. Let's take the trophy away from France because poor Croatia only have 4m people and don't have as high a GDP as France. As I previously stated maybe you should look at sports astrology, seems right down your street.
 
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You can't use the 'if this happened then this result would happen' argument as it's bullshit. If Maradona didn't perform the hand of god then maybe we would have won the World Cup. If, If, If.
Actually this argument could be used. If the technology existed in that point of time that goal would have certainly and rightfully been called back. And this is coming from an Argentina fan. The 1966 final between England and Germany has also be reevaluated by Oxford.

Croatia were very impressive and outplayed France for most of the game.. but they lost 4-2. That is the key statistic here and the only one that matters, France 4-2 Croatia. As for the rest of your post I couldn't give a shit about population or wealth of each country when it comes to football. Let's take the trophy away from France because poor Croatia only have 4m people and don't have as high a GDP as France. As I previously stated maybe you should look at sports astrology, seems right down your street.
And herein lies the problem with your thinking. Whether you personally care about them or not, wealth and population are real non-sport factors that highly impact sports (astrology is not real). Since they can be measured with reasonable accuracy, this means to develop a ranking system that best reflects true skill they must be considered. This is what I'm providing. Croatia, Brazil, and Belgium are in fact currently better than France by small but noticeable margins. I personally don't care about trophies, but I do care about who is actually the best.
 

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Bloody hell, we’ve got another one here haven’t we?

I’m sure Croatia and their fans will be absolutely delighted to read this, will really take the pain of yesterday away.

Just looking at the wealth and population of Charlton and turns out that if you forget about trophies, we’re actually better than Real Madrid.
 

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We must consider these 3 points for proper evaluation.

1. first 2 French goals were questionable at best
2. Croatia outplayed France for most of the game and got unlucky (which often happens in low scoring sports)
3. In wealth and population adjusted rankings if Croatia would have won or lost by 1 goal or less they would've retained the #1 spot

further explanation:

Wealth and Population Adjusted Rankings After 2018 World Cup
1. Brazil
2. Croatia
3. Belgium
4. Peru
5. Uruguay
6. Portugal
7. France
8. Chile
9. Denmark
10. Montenegro
11. Serbia
12. Iceland

*Peru may seem overrated after poor World Cup performance, but 3 games is not enough for sufficient mathematical deduction
*due to close scores of Brazil, Croatia, and Belgium any of these teams could overcome each other on a day by day basis
Surely Cameroon deserve representation or do you have something against Africans?
 

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Another St Juste, the world just isn't big enough.

Bearing in mind Bradford is one of the poorer places in the country, can we evaluate our achievements. Start by giving us United's 99 treble, thanks.

Also Montenegro weren't at the World Cup, why are they there?
 
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Surely Cameroon deserve representation or do you have something against Africans?
Cameroon ranks for association football:
#43 in wealth and population adjusted rankings so far for 2018
#35 in wealth and population adjusted rankings for 2017
#51 currently in the World Football Elo Ratings
#49 currently in the FIFA Rankings
#11 in wealth and population adjusted rankings for combined years of 1992-2018
#68 in wealth and population adjusted rankings for combined years of 1946-1991

In wealth and population rankings Cameroon ranked (currently only features all competitive matches as well as intercontinental friendlies for the following years):
#2 in 2002
#1 in 2003
#1 in 2004
#1 in 2005
#1 in 2006
#1 in 2007
#2 in 2008
#1 in 2009

source: internationalsports.nfshost.com

Also Montenegro weren't at the World Cup, why are they there?
It's a complete list of rankings, not just world cup teams. Also working on getting all non-fifa members included.
 
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St Juste has a second account? FFS, i only just set his other one to 'ignore' :(
Hardly, I've already pointed out the complete flaw in his ideology.

Large poor countries will usually do better than small rich countries assuming the interest in football in constant. See Brazil vs. (well just about anyone).
 

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Hardly, I've already pointed out the complete flaw in his ideology.

Large poor countries will usually do better than small rich countries assuming the interest in football in constant. See Brazil vs. (well just about anyone).
Except Brazil isn't poor of itself?
 

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